My first brew (with pics)

Post #1 made 12 years ago
Hello all,

First off, thanks for all the information contained in this forum. It's a terrific resource that encouraged me to take the brewing plunge.

My first brew day was making an America IPA with Chinook and Citra hops. I enlisted the support of two experienced mash tun type brewers to help things go smoothly. I ended up with 12 litres in the fermentor with a 75% brew house efficiency. The OG was 1.061 so it should be a 6.4% ABV beer. I'm currently deciding whether to dry hop it in the primary once the yeast calms down.

I'm using a plastic tub with water and a tropical fish tank heater to keep the beer around 18.5C. There's a nice head of yeast on it now, so I'm hopeful for a good end product.

I followed the checklist here but still made a few mistakes:
  • Temperature dropped in the mash in between the 40min and 70m check. I had a cake rack in the kettle, so it was ok to turn the heat on
    I misjudged the amount of space required once you add the grains. So kept some water aside in a pot which I poured over the grain bag after the mash
    My pot lid had wort on it underneath which split on the stovetop. That took ages to clean off with baking soda and vinegar. I also ran out of kitchen roll
    Crocodile clips could of held things in place to save me holding them
Pics, or it didn't happen!

In the Mash:
3Kg Pale Malt
160g of Crystal 60
20 Litres of water
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In the Boil:
Chinook: 12g at 60m, 10g at 15m.
Citra: 10g at 15m 20g at 5m, 20g at 0m
Irish Moss at 15m
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Chill: Using a wort chiller to go from 100C to 20C in 10 minutes

I added this just before the flavour hops so I could wait for the wort temperature to get back to boiling.

For moving to the FV I just poured it in through a sieve and the BIAB bag. It came out pretty clear.
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Pitching: In a water bath with temperature controlling heater, keeping the 12L around 18-19C
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Yeast Action: 36 hours later the yeast is doing it's thing
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Thanks everyone,
Joe.
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Post #3 made 12 years ago
Well done joejag, congratulations!
joejag wrote:Irish Moss at 15m
This probably won't make much difference, but just for info, I have seen PistolPatch mention this working better at 5 minutes instead of 15.
I don't think he ever got around to finding the data on it, but I add it at 5 minutes now anyway.
Last edited by mally on 25 Feb 2014, 15:52, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
Always love reading threads like this. Great job Joe. Very good stove-top set-up.

Careful on the cake rack. While it will stop your bag getting burned but it won't stop you over-heating the bottom of your grain bed.

I think us experienced guys need to be thinking on this a bit more and getting the word out there. Being able to control the tempo of the mash fairly easily in BIAB is a massive advantage but only if you agitate the grain whilst applying heat, or if you lift the bag high whilst applying heat.

I don't know why I haven't seen this before but I am now worried that many others like Joe will think that a cake rack means they don't have to stir as well.

Only other thing I can think of is to use your BIAB bag as a hop sock. Works a treat ;).

Congratulations again Joe,
PP
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Post #5 made 12 years ago
Today I dry hopped, took a hydrometer reading and sampled the beer.

Dry hopping with 10g Citra. Using a hopsock to allow me to easily remove the hops later on
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I'm dry hopping in the primary. It's been bubbling away for seven days now. When I removed the lid you could hear the CO2 escaping.
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I sanitized a beer thief, trial jar and hydrometer and took a measurement. It came out around 1.020 which is higher than I'd hoped. I wonder if it's still going to eat away to get to 1.011
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I didn't want to put the beer back in, so I tried it out. It's very piney and citrusy aroma with a long piney finish. Obviously flat at this point but I'm really looking forward to trying it out in 3 weeks time.
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I'm bottling the beer next weekend, so I'll post pictures of that on here too.

Thanks for the responses everyone.

@Mad_Scientist

I went around my house looking for a room with a consistent temperature. Under my stairs seemed to be 16-19C all day round. I still wanted to control the temperature a bit better than that. So I went and bought a storage container big enough to contain my 15 Litre fermentation bucket.

Tropical Fish heaters are sold according to how many gallons of water you want to heat. Which is pretty convenient.

I first fill the container up with water at the desired temperature, then add the bucket. I add or remove water so the amount in the larger container is at the same height as the wort in the bucket. Otherwise the FV moves around. Then I pitch the yeast.

I heard messing up the fermentation is a common beginner mistake. I didn't want to get caught out there.

@Mally

Interesting about adding the Irish Moss at 5 instead of 15. I was just followed the packaging instructions. I'll read up more about that and change my future brews. Thanks for the tip.

@PistolPatch

I was paranoid about burning my brand new, exact-dimensions BIAB bag. So I was stirring while heating despite the cake rack. I had read in the PDF guide on here that you should do that. I was unaware that the reasoning was to protect the grain bed, rather than the bag itself. So thanks for letting me know about that.
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Post #6 made 12 years ago
Lovely Joe :salute:,

Don't pay too much attention to final gravity estimates. As you get more experienced (lazier) you'll tend to just let things sit a little bit longer as you'll learn that many beers (even 1.050 OG ones such as a Schwarzbier) will finish at 1.015 or even higher for various reasons. And you'll get to know ways of getting this down if needed.

Main thing for now is to take a measurement late in the piece and keep a record of it. If the beer, upon tasting, once packaged, tastes too sweet, then it might be a thing to address. For now, record the FG number rather than aiming for it.

As for the bag, the main reason for stirring is, as you say, to prevent the bag from burning but it is also important to not have the bottom of the mash reaching very high temps. Both reasons are probably as important as each other. However...

If you have a pulley system, you can lift the bag very much off the bottom (right to the top of the wort), apply flame and then, with your masher in the bag, just occasionally give it a stir. This saves the continuous agitation.

;)
PP

P.S. If any info in this thread by any of us helps, please pass it on to fellow brewers as and when you can Joe. (Maybe I should put that in my signature? Might help to remind people it's great to pass info on :think:)
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Post #7 made 12 years ago
Today was bottling day. The FG was 1.013, pretty close to the expected 1.010

I started off by sterilizing everything in sight
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Then got everything together for a group shot
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For sanitizing the bottles I'm using a Vinator with Starsan. It fires the solution into the bottle cleaning them quickly
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The bottles were dried out on a xmas tree for bottles. I put the bottle caps into the Vinator so they could soak in the StarSan.
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I prepared 73g of caster sugar in boiled water to reach a 2.5 volume CO2 level required for the style

Using an auto-siphon the beer was transferred from the fermentation bucket into the bottling bucket, adding the sugar after the siphon started.
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While cleaning the empty fermentation bucket, I noticed it had a thick layer of yeast at the bottom. I suppose this is what people call the 'yeast cake'?

Now I moved around the bucket and some chairs to get ready for bottling. My bottling bucket has a spigot which takes a bottling wand. I've got a small table and a chair to make this easy on my back.

I filled the bottles in batches of 6 then left a bottle cap on top.
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After using a capper to get the caps on. I took a picture full of pride for the final product.

I made this.
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Post #8 made 12 years ago
Excellent joejag, thats almost identical to my bottling day too. Except I use coopers PET bottles, and my bottle tree is red :lol:
The vinator is a godsend for bottlers as well.

Just a bit of patience now :drink:
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Post #9 made 12 years ago
joejag,

Good job and nice presentation. Keep the ball rolling and brew more. Waiting is the hardest part but if you brew enough you are only having to wait half as much time? (It makes sense but I didn't say it right?)
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Post #10 made 12 years ago
mally wrote:Well done joejag, congratulations!
joejag wrote:Irish Moss at 15m
This probably won't make much difference, but just for info, I have seen PistolPatch mention this working better at 5 minutes instead of 15.
I don't think he ever got around to finding the data on it, but I add it at 5 minutes now anyway.

I would be interested in why this is. I usually put in the moss at 10min LOL. So PistolPatch Why 5 not 15min?
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Post #11 made 12 years ago
Joe,

Someone here pointed out the 5 min thing years ago and I found at least one data sheet which certainly agreed with that. It had graphs etc which showed the efficacy of adding different finings at different times. I tried to find it again a few months ago without success but I'm sure womeone having a beer and doing a google will find it again.

Just one thing onb the bottling Joe. Keep your fermentor and bottling vessels covered during bottling. Your still beer has lots of goodies in it that wild yeast and some bacterias would just love to eat up. No need to go absolutely paranoid. I just put a washed towel over my kettle lid or a towelling nappy/diaper over my fermentor when transferring.

Looking forward to the taste test :drink:,
PP
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