Single hop recipe recommendation and BIABacus question.

Post #1 made 11 years ago
Howdy guys,
First the BIABacus question. In section M there is a pre-lauter gravity (PLG) efficiency input that I'm confused with. For this brew I just guessed and used the same gravity as GIK. (Just so I'm clear and perhaps actually learning something the GIK is the measure of how much of the theoretical sugars were actually extracted from the grains during the mash/ mashout process measured before the boil). This time around I made a conscious effort to keep notes and take measurements,,,,I did better than usual but I have room to improve. If there is anything that looks off on my BIABacus for Caribou Slobber I'd be glad to hear it.
Now for the recipe part.
After the last brew (Centennial Blonde) I noticed a distinctive fruity aroma (what little I was able to taste before it was stolen,,but I digress) that was unlike any other brew I had made. I'm attributing this to the Centennial hops but I'm open to other suggestions on this. This has inspired me to become more familiar with particular hops and their impact on beer. What I would like to find is a good general purpose single hop amber ale (but I'm flexible on this) that could be made with perhaps 3 or so different hops . The Blonde is made with Cascade only so this recipe might even be a candidate but I don't know which other hops to experiment with or if it's a good recipe for this. Figure this might give me a better idea of how different hops work.

Hook me up folks.
M
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Post #2 made 11 years ago
Schlitz,

Centenial blonde is a fine candidate for a single hop brew. I know this beer and I really like it! :drink: But I think that my recipe has cascade in it as well? The blond is a clean crisp brew that mw allow the flavor and aroma of a single hop show through.

Another thing to consider while experimenting with single hops would be to scale down your batches to 1 or 2 gallons.

I think that pre lauter gravity is the specific gravity measured before you raise the wort to 168-170F and mash out (if you do that. It is not required.)

Trout
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Post #4 made 11 years ago
DOH :idiot:
Apparently I can't think and type at the same time. The Blonde I made had BOTH cascade and centennial hops. What I was thinking was to make it again and only use cascade to see what differences I could detect. If this is a good base brew then I would like to get a couple more suggestions for hops that would be good representatives of different hop varieties and brew this one again several different ways. For this experiment I would like to find hops with distinct rather than subtle differences. I've heard over the years things along the lines of "this hops is like X or Y hops but with more/less of something". At this point I don't have a good idea of what X or Y hops are which is what I'm hoping to learn from this little experiment.
I think the scaling is good way to go but I'm sure going to feel silly brewing such a small amount in such a large pot,,,can you even do that ;) . It's like a Rube Goldberg way of making a mug of green tea.

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Post #5 made 11 years ago
I under stand your hesitation about my suggestion of smaller batches, but do you really want to make lets say 7 full size batches just to really get a feel for 7 several different hops? Just a thought.


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Post #6 made 11 years ago
I actually do think the smaller batches are a better way to do experiments and after the next batch will do just that. The thought of doing the 1gal batch with all the large pieces of equipment I now have just made me think of the typical male overkill behavior of "bigger is better".
I've decided to remake a 5gal batch of the centennial blonde and leave out the centennial hops and replace with cascade. With only one change it "shouldn't" be too much different from the original batch and since the wife is taking this batch to a meeting then I can get a few pulls off it, see what I think then make another set of small batches for me.
Thanks for the input,
M

Post #7 made 11 years ago
schlitz wrote: and since the wife is taking this batch to a meeting then I can get a few pulls off it
I'm not sure this would be appropriate to bring to an AA meeting :lol:
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Post #8 made 11 years ago
What can I say,,,,I'm an enabler :drink:
It is funny that since home brew was introduced into the work meetings years ago there has been a huge increase in the number of meetings :scratch: I wonder if I'm being taken advantage of????? Gosh I hope so.

M

Post #9 made 11 years ago
Sounds like a fun place to work. I would probably do a simple single hop IPA if you're looking to learn what each hop brings. Then again, I'm a bit of a hophead.
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Post #11 made 11 years ago
I really want to jump in on this tread, as I have been brewing SMaSH exclusively in and attempt to learn all the things you are talking about, but I've not tasted any of them yet!

I'm trying a Vienna & Northern Brewer SMaSH this weekend. I'm also going to get to try my first brew which is Great Western Organic American 2-row and Cascade.

I also do 1 gal batches.
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Post #12 made 11 years ago
smashmouth wrote:I have been brewing SMaSH exclusively in and attempt to learn all the things you are talking about, but I've not tasted any of them yet!
Very good question.

If one wishes to learn grains/hops, what is the order of recipes? I'm thinking it could be maybe a waste of time on such small batch sizes (probably any batch size) to start out trying to compare an American flavour/aroma hop with another American flavour/hop before trying and English versus American flavour/aroma hop isn't it?

:scratch: .
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Post #13 made 11 years ago
Waste of time? Possibly, probably?

After I read your post PP, I certainly think that the enormity of trying to get a "feel" for the many hop varieties and how they interact with the many base malt varieties is a daunting task! :shock:

trout
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Post #14 made 11 years ago
Glad that post prompted something trout. My LHBS has probably around 50 hop varieties for sale. I honestly have no idea of half the names, let alone the time to test them. How can anyone possibly keep up with this proliferation of hop varieties?
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Post #15 made 11 years ago
Thanks for the input folks. My first batch of "Cascade in lieu of Centennial Blonde" is in the fermenter as we speak. I'll give it a couple of weeks then look at a smaller batch of the same but with another hops.
So far this is what I've come up with as a start to my research. I've based most of it on overall popularity so hopefully I'm not using 2 that are too similar. My plan is to do 4 smaller batches to see how how they compare.
In no particular order
Amarillo, UK Kent Goldings, Fuggles, Hallertau.

Any thoughts or something I overlooked?

M
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