Help with a Biscuit Porter

Post #1 made 12 years ago
I need a little feedback on my first recipe that I have worked out using your excellent BIABACUS tool. I am looking for a porter with a fair amount of biscuit flavor. I have referenced both the Brewing Classic Styles and the great book, Designing Great Beers (Daniels). Can you please take a look at what I have come up with and comment? Thanks in advance for your help.
Jim Adams
CrownPoint Brewery

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Recipe Overview

Brewer: J. Adams
Style: Porter
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Original Gravity (OG): 1.05
IBU's (Tinseth): 28
Bitterness to Gravity Ratio: 0.56
Colour: 76.2 EBC = 38.7 SRM
ABV%: 4.84

Efficiency into Boil (EIB): 72 %
Efficiency into Fermentor (EIF): 64.9 %

Note: This is a Pure BIAB (Full Volume Mash)

Times and Temperatures

Mash: 90 mins at 68 C = 154.4 F
Boil: 60 min
Ferment: 5 days at 16.7 C = 62.1 F

Volumes & Gravities
(Note that VAW below is the Volume at Flame-Out (VFO) less shrinkage.)

Total Water Needed (TWN): 18.54 L = 4.9 G
Volume into Boil (VIB): 17.35 L = 4.58 G @ 1.038
Volume of Ambient Wort (VAW): 12.61 L = 3.33 G @ 1.05
Volume into Fermentor (VIF): 11.36 L = 3 G @ 1.05
Volume into Packaging (VIP): 10.52 L = 2.78 G @ 1.013 assuming apparent attenuation of 75 %

The Grain Bill (Also includes extracts, sugars and adjuncts)

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75% British Pale Ale Malt (91.9 EBC = 46.6 SRM) 2217 grams = 4.89 pounds
10% Brown Malt (70 L) (185.3 EBC = 94.1 SRM) 296 grams = 0.65 pounds
6% Crystal (40 L) (105.2 EBC = 53.4 SRM) 177 grams = 0.39 pounds
2% Chocolate Malt (350 L) (932.5 EBC = 473.4 SRM) 59 grams = 0.13 pounds
7% Biscuit (50 EBC = 25.4 SRM) 207 grams = 0.46 pounds

The Hop Bill (Based on Tinseth Formula)

25 IBU Northern Brewer Pellets (5%AA) 24.8 grams = 0.876 ounces at 60 mins
3 IBU Northern Brewer Pellets (5%AA) 8.3 grams = 0.292 ounces at 10 mins

Mash Steps

Mash Type: Pure BIAB (Full Volume Mash) for 90 mins at 68 C = 154.4 F
Mashout for for 10 mins at 77 C = 170.6 F

Miscellaneous Ingredients

1/2 Tab Whirfloc (Boil) 15 Mins - Clarity
1 tab Camphden Tab (start) - water treatment

Chilling & Hop Management Methods

Hopsock Used: Y (Pulled 0 mins after boil end.)
Whirlpool: 10 mins after boil end.
Chilling Method: Immersion Chiller (Employed 0 mins after boil end.)

Fermentation& Conditioning

Fermention: WYEAST 1028 London Ale or Danstar Nottingham for 5 days at 16.7 C = 62.06 F
Diacetyl Rest: 5 days at 20 C = 68 F
Secondary Used: N
Crash-Chilled: N
Filtered: N
Req. Volumes of CO2: 2.5
Serving Temp: 10 C = 50 F
Condition for 10 days.
Consume within 6 months.

Special Instructions/Notes on this Beer

Shooting for 6 to 10% biscuit in grist. Adjusted IBU to match style along with lowering starting gravity. See page 264 DSB.
Last edited by adamsjam on 25 Jan 2014, 03:32, edited 1 time in total.

Post #2 made 12 years ago
Sorry you haven't had a reply yet Jim :sad:.

I'm short on time but there's one thing above that doesn't look right. Can you please post your file up here for me?
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
Good on you Adam,

Okay, I've found the cause of the thing I was worried about. You see in Section X how you have over-ridden the BIABacus auto-efficiency and set it to 72%? That is way too low for a full volume (pure BIAB) beer of 1.050 original gravity. If I delete that 72%, you'll see that your EIB and EAW (kettle efficiencies) in Section P jump from 72 to 84.9%. That's what we want.

When we are copying a recipe from another source, one thing we don't want to copy is their kettle efficiency as it will be different from yours (especially if they don't BIAB). So, don't over-ride the BIABacus auto-efficiency estimate unless you have a really good reason to ;).

You've done a fantastic job on the rest of the file Adam. I can see the variations from the book but I am assuming that you have made them for good reason and can't see anything wrong with what you have done.

What you need to do now...

1. Get rid of the 72 in Section X. This will drop the grain you need to buy by about 450 grams. (If you have already bought it, you will need to increase the 'Desired VIF' in section B until the 'What you will use...' total of Section C equals what you bought. Your kettle is big enough for you to so this.)

2. Ring the shop you will be buying your hops from and type their AA% into the right hand side of Section D. THis will adjust your hop weights you will need to use accordingly.

Nice job :salute:,
PP
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Post #5 made 12 years ago
PP:

Thank you very much for the feedback. I have already brewed about 5 batches of various types using the BIAB technique. I am getting better, but still have a ways to go. But that is the fun. I have had quite a variability on my efficiency amounts that are calculated in section P (EIB). May last batch was closer to an EIB of 58%. I guess I am confusing that with the kettle efficiency. Not to worry, it all tastes great!

I did modify the receipt in an effort to round out the taste with a noticeable biscuit/bread aroma and taste. Your most excellent worksheet makes this a very fun process.

Thanks again, and cheers!

Jim A.
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