Weed Feed and Mow Cream Ale Recipe -Questions

Post #1 made 11 years ago
I am brewing Jamil Zainasheff's Weed Feed and Mow Cream Ale Recipe. The recipe can be found in his Brewing Classic Style Book on page 223.
Here are my questions

1) Did I adjust my BIABACUS file correctly for the use of cane sugar in the original grain bill? The original grain bill calls for 340 grams of cane sugar. So I entered this in Section C and adjusted the Original Grain Bill in Section Y by entering 100% in the FGDB column and 0.0% in the MC column.

2) At what point in the BIAB process to I add the "cane sugar" Is it added when a add the grains or during the boil?

3) The recipe calls for Flaked Rice. I have not worked with rice before is their anything out of the ordinary that I have to do?

4) What temperature do I perform the 10 min mashout at? My 90 min mash temp is 65C/149F.

5) The recipe does not mention the pitch temperature. At what temp do I pitch if I am using Safale US-05?

6) If i want to double the recipe do I only simply change my VIF in Section B from 22.7L to 45.4 and the BIABACUS does the rest. If have never double a recipe before. Are there an major issues i need to consider.

Thanks dk

Brewer: dkrolak
Style: Cream Ale
Source Recipe Link: Jamil Zainasheef Brewing Classic Styles pg 232
ABV: 4.8% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)

Original Gravity (OG): 1.05
IBU's (Tinseth): 18
Bitterness to Gravity Ratio: 0.36
Colour:

Kettle Efficiency (as in EIB and EAW): 84.6 %
Efficiency into Fermentor (EIF): 76.2 %

Note: This is a Pure BIAB (Full Volume Mash)

Times and Temperatures

Mash: 90 mins at 65 C = 149 F
Boil: 90 min
Ferment: 10 days at 18 C = 64.4 F

Volumes & Gravities
(Note that VAW below is the Volume at Flame-Out (VFO) less shrinkage.)
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Total Water Needed (TWN): 37.19 L = 9.82 G
Volume into Boil (VIB): 34.07 L = 9 G @ 1.038
Volume of Ambient Wort (VAW): 25.2 L = 6.66 G @ 1.05
Volume into Fermentor (VIF): 22.7 L = 6 G @ 1.05
Volume into Packaging (VIP): 21.86 L = 5.77 G @ 1.013 assuming apparent attenuation of 75 %

The Grain Bill (Also includes extracts, sugars and adjuncts)

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42.2% Continental Pilsner Malt 2081 grams = 4.59 pounds
42.2% American 2 Row Malt 2081 grams = 4.59 pounds
8.8% Flaked Rice 436 grams = 0.96 pounds
6.7% Cane Sugar 329 grams = 0.73 pounds!

The Hop Bill (Based on Tinseth Formula)

17.6 IBU Liberty Pellets (5.8%AA) 30.2 grams = 1.064 ounces at 60 mins
0.4 IBU Liberty Pellets (5.8%AA) 15.1 grams = 0.532 ounces at 1 mins

b]Mash Steps[/b]

Mash Type: Pure BIAB (Full-Volume Mash): for 90 mins at 65 C = 149 F

Strike Water Needed (SWN): 37.92 L = 10.02 G 65.5 C = 150 F

Mashout for for 10 mins at 76 C = 168.8 F

Miscellaneous Ingredients

Chilling & Hop Management Methods

Hopsock Used: Y (Pulled 0 mins after boil end.)

Chilling Method: IC

Fermentation & Conditioning

Fermentation: Safale US-05 for 10 days at 18 C = 64.4 F

Secondary Used: N
Crash-Chilled: y
Filtered: n
Req. Volumes of CO2: 2.5
Serving Temp: 8 C = 46.4 F
Condition for 14 days.
Consume within 6 months.
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Post #2 made 11 years ago
DKRolak,

1) The File looks good, and Complete, Well Done.
2) I have found the best time to add Sugar is when you get to Full Boil, the Sugar dissolves quickly.
3) Flaked Rice is fully Gelatinized and is ready mash, so add it with the grains.
4) Mash Temperature is 172F to 178F.
5) If your going to ferment at 18C/64C, I would Pitch at that temperature.
6) The best I could get was 39L(sec.B,(VIF) since your kettle is nearly Full for the Mash.

BUT, if you want to go MAXI-BIAB, and Hold back 15L/4gallons until the Bag is pulled or Boil is going, You could make the 45.4L/12Gal

See attached File...
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Post #3 made 11 years ago
joshua wrote: 4) Mash Mashout Temperature is 172F to 178F.
My sincere apologies for correcting your reply joshua, I know exactly what you meant but wanted to make sure that our new brewer wasn't confused by your answer.

---Todd
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Post #4 made 11 years ago
Todd, the Spell Checker did that to me, Good Catch!!!!
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Post #5 made 11 years ago
Couple of quick ones...

Just be careful on re-publishing recipes from a book. Hopefully Brewing Publications won't mind as the site does encourage purchase of the book and this recipe is a little different as it has the sugar in it.

My only differences from Joshua are the following...

2. Only problem with adding sugar early is it can darken the wort. I am not an expert on sugar but when I do use it, I put it in at about 5 minutes before the end of the boil.

4. I would not recommend going higher than 78C (172 F).

6. Yes your thinking is right and there are no major issues to consider except... as Josh mentioned, it will over-flow your kettle. The earlier you can add any water you hold back, the better so I would look at adding 10 L before the boil and 5 L during the boil.

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