I am a big fan of Fullers ESB and have brewed one clone using BIAB which turned out quite well. But I was doing some more research and stumbled across some episodes of the Jamil show where they tried to clone the beer. The first wasn't successful, but on the second they believe they nailed it. The link is below:
http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/692
Apparently using partigyle and the first runnings is a big part of getting the malt profile right for this beer. Basically they have enough grain for two batches of beer. They are using the first runnings for Fullers ESB and the second for London Pride. I'm curious, is there a way to do this with BIAB?
Post #2 made 14 years ago
Try mashing with less water... pull the bag... don't squeeze, dump it into another container...
Then dilute to the right pre-boil gravity.
That should get you "first runnings"
then after you've finished your brew, remash the bag
Then dilute to the right pre-boil gravity.
That should get you "first runnings"
then after you've finished your brew, remash the bag
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Post #3 made 14 years ago
Hi there Ralphus,
As stux says, you can definitely do this with BIAB. All you need is another container to dump your bag in while you do the first brew.
What you'll need to do though is listen to the podcast again and take notes. (I'm assuming they give you quantities, OG's etc.) Once you have noted the essential figures down, then it shouldn't be too hard for us to work you out a brew day schedule.
Sounds like a fun brewing exercise.
PP
As stux says, you can definitely do this with BIAB. All you need is another container to dump your bag in while you do the first brew.
What you'll need to do though is listen to the podcast again and take notes. (I'm assuming they give you quantities, OG's etc.) Once you have noted the essential figures down, then it shouldn't be too hard for us to work you out a brew day schedule.
Sounds like a fun brewing exercise
.PP
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Post #4 made 14 years ago
The details of how they did start at 49:30 mark and it only takes a few minutes to get through it.
They are effectively doing a double 6G batches for 12G. 95% pale malt, 5% british crystal 70-80. 8 gallons for starting mash, 1.3 quarts per pound. First runnings for the ESB were 5.5 gallons with gravity of 1.063. Diluted with a gallon of water to get 7 gallon pre-boil. Ended up with an OG of 1.060.
Second runnings produced the London Pride wort of 1.038 @ 7 gallons, and after the boil they had 6 gallons at 1.048.
Any thoughts on how to do this with my meager 48L pot? If I can't do the London pride that's ok.. but would love to be able to get the ESB.
They are effectively doing a double 6G batches for 12G. 95% pale malt, 5% british crystal 70-80. 8 gallons for starting mash, 1.3 quarts per pound. First runnings for the ESB were 5.5 gallons with gravity of 1.063. Diluted with a gallon of water to get 7 gallon pre-boil. Ended up with an OG of 1.060.
Second runnings produced the London Pride wort of 1.038 @ 7 gallons, and after the boil they had 6 gallons at 1.048.
Any thoughts on how to do this with my meager 48L pot? If I can't do the London pride that's ok.. but would love to be able to get the ESB.
