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Post #51 made 11 years ago
by thughes
Linux. Everything of importance data-wise is in /home. I ditched Wndows for Linux 15 years ago and have never looked back.
WWBBD?
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Post #52 made 11 years ago
by Lumpy5oh
I went to android about 6 years ago because I hated iTunes. I have also made the jump to Linux a couple of years ago. I am still a little intimidated by the terminal but it has everything I need.
Some people are like slinkies. Not good for much, but bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

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Post #53 made 11 years ago
by mally
Good point Todd.

Something like Ubuntu - and it's free as well!
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I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
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Post #54 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
I better make this my first post of this evening before I totally spit the dummy :). Just spent an hour and a half trying to get my printer to work. Most basic and common Canon printer ever that worked fine before the re-install but can I get it working now? Nup. Like everything on this installation have had to spend ages Googling leading to dead ends. Had enough dead ends today. I'll just photograph my screen so I have something to work off at work tomorrow.

Insert lots of swearing.

I've tried Linux a few times but unfortunately a lot of very important files to me are Microsoft ones that can't be converted (eg Microsoft Publisher). Don't give up on me though. I'm about to throw this whole bloody thing through a window (Windows?) so maybe Linux here I come?

This must be Microsoft's secret solution to over-population or something. Just get people to re-install Windows 8.1 and half of them will surely throw themselves off their computer tower.

:angry:

No BIABacus help writing tonight for me - my brain has been sucked dry.
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Post #56 made 11 years ago
by JackRussel
I dabbled a bit with Linux in the 90's, but I was in the same boat as you PP. There were programs that I NEEDED to work that didn't. I am more than ready to try again. I have to believe that it's not just us old timer's that have had enough. Yeah, I said it! We are old. 40 is the new 30, but 40 is also the new 60. It's a good thing that kids are afraid of work these days. We'd be screwed otherwise. Damn, I sound old!
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Post #57 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
lol you old idiots :lol:. Thank God I am young, sexy, good-looking and know a shit-load more than you old people :party:.

...

However, you have actually taught me something pretty amazing in the two posts above. I taught thinking skills for nearly 14 years and part of this included a 40 hour seminar on thinking. (I was hoping that some of what I taught might sink in to me! :)). This forum is a bit like the seminars. There's a side where you can learn some very advanced skills and there is a side where these very advanced skills can be treated like Gods which is not the intention. It's all about balance. Music and their lyrics can be a very powerful educator as can stopping for a minute and actually thinking. Put the two together and occasionally a very important point can sink in. So, occassionally I would start a session with a song but ask people to really listen to the words.

At a point when I knew people were starting to treat the techniques taught as gods, I played one of my favourite songs/messages - Sunscreen. But only today did I discover that the lyrics of the song were from here. Wow!

That song and those words, to me, are pure beauty.

...

There is also actually a lot more to say on this issue. The most important thinking skill there is is to stop and actually think - examine. That is pretty obvious when you stop and think about it, eh? :). In Zen it is called attention. Pay attention. If you pay, you might receive what you paid for.

The next most important thinking skills, besides examination/paying attention might include things like humour and responsibility. We all have varying degrees of these skills. Some of us are born with very low skills in all areas but often they are very happy people that can teach another incredibly important thing, simplicity, but often they are uncared for. The biggest 'sin', in my opinion is, if you have the skills to respond ably, staying silent whilst you wait for someone else to say what you already know or fix the problem.

History almost guarantees that Windows or Apple will not 'get better' on their own. Look at history and there are no old companies. Companies consistently fail as they get bigger. That's not me making it up, it is a fact. So why will Windows or Google be any different unless they listen to the individual 'many' rather than an individual few?

I am totally appalled at what is accepted as an "operating system" let alone general "software" today. I have no idea on why it is accepted.

...

I have written a lot more here but have copied and saved it as I think there is enough above to think on first. And I have no idea if anyone is interested in what else I have to say! Those of you who have been on the site for a while will know how important I find analogies and correlations. There is, to me, a massive analogy/correlation of how current brewing software/sites might reflect a much larger problem. (I have Cinderella and Hitler analogies to come.)

Don't be lazy though! Let me know if you are interested in this subject. If enough people say they are interested, I might tell you how just one example of this larger problem might be our Aussie Prime Minister. (Better not write more there. I might get disappeared - lol))

Or, I can just cut everything short and just say, "Stop. Think. Is this garbage? If so, you clean it up. Don't leave it on the street."
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Post #58 made 11 years ago
by JackRussel
I haven't heard that Sunscreen song since I was a kid. Probably around 10 years old. Thanks for the blast from the past. I'll have to see If my brother remembers it too.

Edit: Wow, was I way off. I was in my 20's when that song came out. That song wasn't even recorded yet when "That song" came out. I'm off to eat some fish and visit Lumosity.
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Post #59 made 11 years ago
by mally
As soon as you mentioned "sunscreen" I thought of Baz Luhrman and that song. I would never have known it was plagiarised!

Although to be honest, most songs ,theories, and discoveries have to have a base in the past so it shouldn't come as a shock really.
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I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
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Post #60 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
JackRussel wrote: I'm off to eat some fish and visit Lumosity.
Fish have rights too you know Jack :angry:. I don't eat fish, meat, vegetables, fruit or anything any more, only beer. My doctor said if I keep it up, I won't even be needing beer! That would mean like I would have a zero footprint on the planet or something I think. I reckon I made my doctor's day :party:.

Anyway, bugger! In my last post here, I was hoping I could lead the forum massively off-topic so as I could avoid doing all the boring jobs I have to do - writing BIABacus help, indexing computer drives, recovering data etc etc etc.

No more posts in this thread for me until I get help written and my IT situation back under control. Please entertain me with your rants though.
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Post #61 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
Can't tell you how many hours/weeks of work have been lost since I posted here last. The next GFC will be caused by idiots like me thinking that there is actually some logic behind Apple and Windows.

Swearing is not usually done here on BIABrewer.info but exceptions are made. I need to just put an end to this IT nightmare and get back to writing. I never write on my Facebook account but here is a copy of what I just posted there...
What is on my mind is working out where to post stuff that is longer than two sentences! Anyway, seeing you asked Mark Zuckerberg, here is what is on my mind...

The Bachelor, Heroin and Windows 8.1... (How do I bold that?)

Only five sleeps until The Bachelor Australia returns for it’s second season but, I strongly advise you not to watch it or have anything to do with it. Don’t tune in. If you do, you’ll be just like the person who has been told time and again, “Heroin is addictive and crippling/deadly,” and/or the person who has been told, “Steer clear of Windows 8.0/8.1.”

If you turn on that TV next Wednesday, you are no better so don’t be stupid. If you do, however, you are likely to go through the following stages...

1. Denial

As soon as you hear yourself saying, “I can’t believe I am watching this shit,” you’re basically fucked. There is honestly nothing you can do about it. You will be waiting for your next fix, or, like the Windows 8.1 user, the next release, thinking, the next one will make it all better, it can’t be as unfulfilling as that last one was.

2. Anger

This usually occurs on about the second or third episode. You turn on the TV at the usual time and they’ve changed the friggin’ time slot with no warning and the Catch-Up TV site doesn’t even work. WTF!!! Who got a rose? Did the bitchy slut get evicted yet or what? Well, you don’t know do you? Just like your damn dealer not showing up on time Sad smile. Or, if you use Windows 8.0/8.1, it’s just like downloading another fix that actually fucks you more.

3. Bargaining

If you thought you were fucked in stage 1 above, well, I hate to say it, but back then was just like being fucked in just one uncomfortable orifice. How’s it feeling now though? I feel most sorry for the heroin user because at least they had a good reason to start. They were told it would feel good. There’s some logic there. Secondly, I feel sorry for the Windows 8.0/8.1 user. It’s acceptable that many computer users would think that a new version of something would be better and easier and more sensible than an old version. The last thing they would expect is that it makes no sense at all. But, what excuse does anyone have who watches The Bachelor 2 have?

Anyway, we now have the heroin user looking for a cheap fix, just to get them through the next five minutes, the Windows 8 user is actually spending money thinking that this next ‘un-free’ program will fix their system whilst the Bachelor addict is now Googling for Bachelor updates. Pathetic!

4. Depression

Well, come on, honestly, what did you expect Bachelor watcher? If you expected you’d on occasion feel like vomiting then that shows you at least still maintained a casual acquaintance with reality in the prior stages. Well done! And that goes for all of you. In this Kubler-Ross model, there is no guarantee you won’t re-cycle, in any order, amongst the above steps. Hopefully though, you’ll pull through to...

5. Acceptance

For me, acceptance came when I finally realised that I had Windows 8.1 and there was fuck-all I could do about it. I’d spent months going through the above and it was really hard for me personally. I Googled, downloaded, uploaded and Pay-Pal’ed faster than a cat in a roomful of rocking chairs. It was tireless. The Windows 8.1 affliction is the worst. I’ve explained it as an addiction above but it’s more of an affliction. You get given it and once you’ve been given it, like herpes, there is little you can do.

No one should be blamed for an affliction. Sometimes we blame people for an addiction but that is usually wrong as well. But, if you have read this and do watch The Bachelor Australia – Season 2, then you need to accept that (and try and get them to sponsor something worthwhile if you do Winking smile).
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Post #62 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
A good read. I may use a extra computer for a Linux machine? (to get ahead of the game?)
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Post #63 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
I enjoyed writing that last post Bob :). I just added the following to the Facebook 'thread' and it has some good news :party: and a bit of advice for anyone else who falls down this rabbit hole.
Ben, every few years I check Linux to see if it can handle MS Publisher which I have used for years. Excellent news!!!! LibreOffice can now handle .pub files (well enough anyway). I am definitely out of Windows now - hooray!!!

Just to finish on this rant, I’ll give just one example of the stupid things I’ve come across in the last month and why I reckon the next GFC will be caused by Microsoft, Apple and probably Facebook – ha! When you find yourself with corrupted files one day and go to repair them, remember how you got the 'free upgrade' from 8.0 to 8.1? Well, guess what, your 8.o key is not valid for 8.1. That took me a day and a 30 minute call to MS to determine. Honestly could not believe it. So to fix my corrupted files (why are they corrupt on a fresh install anyway?) I have to follow these instructions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and the links within it which would take a university programming degree or I have to re-install again which, wait for it, involves downloading the 2 gigs of Windows 8.0, all the updates, then the ‘free upgrade’ to 8.1 (another 2 gigabytes) and then the 8.1 updates. And after that spend the bloody hours re-loading programs and drivers.

The reason I had so much swearing in the main post here is that I have actually discovered that rather than Google something sensible like, “Windows 8.1 .iso”, it is much quicker to just search with terms like, “Fuck you WIndows 8.1,” or “Fuck you iTunes.” The latter results invariably end in you finding the right answer fast instead of you spending three days searching, thinking, “No, it can’t be that stupid.”

Let’s go Linux!!!!
Now I feel as though I can finally get my full focus back on finishing the BIABacus help. Excellent :thumbs:.
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Post #64 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
BobBrews wrote:A good read. I may use a extra computer for a Linux machine? (to get ahead of the game?)
Just quickly Bob, the way I am going to play this is as follows. This is one of the few situations where a picture probably works less well than words but here you go...
Synergy, Linux, Windows.jpg
If you imagine that pic is what is in front of me on my desk then I think a variation of the above would work well for you and for anyone wanting to venture into Linux slowly.

Currently my laptop is just a laptop and I only use it now when I travel as I have two large screens. The above pic is a simplification of what I am going to do. The key point is though...

The Synergy Project

Truly excellent program and I have been using it for a few years now. See the pic above for what it does. What I didn't realise until yesterday is that it can simultaneously handle Windows, Linux and Apple!

So, I am going to use one keyboard and mouse (no dual booting or anything, we are talking simultaneous operation!), give Windows my small laptop screen and processor plus one large screen and Linux my main computer and my biggest screen.

That is pretty damn good :party: :peace: :drink:,
PP
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Post #65 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
Looks like a sweet setup! I have six PC's in my inside office. The one that died last Spring may get converted to a Linux machine. I just have to buy a new motherboard and processor combo to match my 8 gigs of ram in the old fried motherboard. I like the case and modify ability of it. No sense in using a real old computer with slow memory and access problems? I will strip the memory and parts someday. Memory is resalable so I could get some cash for it.

I had a set up years ago that had a switch to go between two computers using a single CRT monitor. What a pain setting that up (in 1990). My first computer was a "Timex Sinclair"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSbjbRoIU1I I learned to program with it. :interesting:

I just counted. In this room I have 6 tower PC's and two Laptops. Upstairs we have one tower PC for the wife, a tablet and a smart phone. In the outside shed I have 4 or 5 vintage PC's? I used them for "Trivia", but now everyone brings their own laptop. Not bad for a couple of people pushing 70 years of age! :?
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Post #66 made 11 years ago
by mally
Thats a great video there Bob.

I even like the way he was using VuCalc for the early BIABacus system!
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I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
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Post #67 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
mally,

I was reminiscing about the "Old days" of computing with my wife. We were in the forefront of computing and spent gobs of money on technology of the day. It seems ludicrous now but at the time it was fascinating. That old Timex Sinclair had a bad chip in it. It heated up so badly the letters faded from my TV screen. I would give it a blast from a spray can of freon or something that went to -20F. I could then see the letters and I could start typing again. After 15 minutes I had to spray again. I personally killed the ozone layer above the US?
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Post #68 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
BobBrews wrote:I personally killed the ozone layer above the US?
There's always one that spoils it for everyone else :evil: :shoot:.

Going Linux from Windows

Bob and Jack, once again I missed my 'envelope' of BIABacus writing by spending too much time here earlier. (I've been stuck on writing Section P help for the last week.) Instead I've looked at Linux for the last few hours. A few days ago I did a Google search on 'FU' Liux etc to make sure Linux didn't suffer the same fate as Windows. Nothing bad came up but tonight I did find the following negative... Link. I thought a lot of that made a lot of sense and was worth a read, without a doubt.

I saw a heap of correlations between Linux distros and brewing forums. The primary example was that the home pages don't make things easy for new users. (We also lack this here but are at least aware of it and fixing it.) I read a lot of stuff and decided I would download Xubuntu and LinuxMint-17-cinnamon. On the former, just working out how to download it was totally unintuitive. Here is where I was lead. Took quite some time to work out what I should do with that page - what would you have done?

On the latter, there were so many choices of 'Mint' on their homepage and no easy way for a new user to find which version would be for them. Even on Googling, 'Which mint version should I use' and many variables of that, I still couldn't find a helpful answer.

So, my initial impression of Linux is that there does not seem to be an easy to find way for Windows users to venture into it. There are a lot of short answers that really just tell the user what the writer does rather than listen to the person actually writing the question. I was actually totally fascinated to see how quickly the question asked in an original post on a Linux forum could be as quickly ignored and unconsidered as on most brewing forums. Have a try yourselves.

...

Anyway, thanks to Windows and Apple, my 10GB monthly download allowance ran out in the first five days of my month so now I am 'shaped' for the next few weeks. I am now downloading xubuntu (930MB) and linuxmint-17-cinnamon (1.3GB) but they will take about six hours to complete. (Funnily enough Xubuntu is downloading twice as fast as Mint?)
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Post #69 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
PistolPatch,

Dumb question. Why did you download windows anyway? I just bought a DVD with a upgrade from (Either Vista or windows 7) and let it run it's install. It kept all my original data and installed perfectly. It just took a few minutes and I was done. Of course I hated the Windows 8. Everyone hates it. That's what the windows 8.1 update tried to fix! (and windows 9 is on the horizon)???

I bought for $4.99 US the program that makes windows 8 look like windows 7. Windows 8 is still the OS. It just works like the good old (and easy) windows 7. Actually I was very happy with window 8 after I used the new (old) interface. Next time (if their is any) buy the friken DVD!
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Post #70 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
Not a dumb question at all. Upgrading I had no probs at all and that is what you have done.

The problem is when you have to do a complete re-install once you have installed 8.1. Try that! Then my prior post here might make more sense ;).

... My main point though, in this whole thread, is people not listening or taking taking care. That, I find really interesting.

:think:
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Post #71 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
PP,

Don't have time to fully explain. http://www.stardock.com/products/launch8/#launch8

Since I bought "Start8" for $4.99 US I see now they have a replacement the program that does more??? I bought start8 with Modernmix in some combo deal?? I didn't have time to look at this new thing they have going (launch8) but I love the program as it is. I have the latest version of windows and I don't have to play around with "stupid 8"

http://www.stardock.com/products/launch8/download.asp

At least look at it? got to go!!!!
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Post #72 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
Lol Bob, you do realise that you have mentioned Stardock three times on the forum now? I'm a very careful reader and do explore what advice is given me and offered here. I have explored Stardock every time you mention it thinking I have missed something obvious but, it, in no way at all, answers my problems let alone relates to them.

If I am not getting your thinking then I suspect a lot of others aren't either. We saw the same thing here recently but I never got an answer there.

This site is about education so educate us please. Our ears are willing and waiting!
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Post #73 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
PistolPatch,

Yes I do relies that I re-mentioned? Stardock three times on the forum. (I do not get a kick back) I guess I missed something in all your rantings? I was forced to upgrade to Windows 8 and knew it was unpopular with the masses. I would never buy any Apple product so Windows is the only relevant alternative. Linux (a off-shoot of Unix) is too "hands on" for most people. I am only trying to help because Stardock helped me. I went from some (Ipod, smartphone, touchscreen) bull shit to regular windows in a wink of an eye. Everything is back to normal. EZ 4 me 2 use.

You didn't answer my question as to why you are downloading so much? Yes, I bought the DVD and still had to download some updated tweaks. But that only took a few minutes.

Years ago when there was ( BetaMax and VCR ) recording formats. I backed BetaMax because it had a better picture quality. But they were just like Apple is now. You had to do things the way they wanted. You were stuck with whatever they wanted, Play by their rules or do without. The VCR format was open to change and improvement. Anyone could use the format. The world loved that and now Betamax is only used by some TV stations. Everyone else uses the VCR format. Of course that's pretty much gone now too?

That's why I don't use Apple. I like to use what's popular because most others do and those who write software will try to write for the biggest profit! I hate to play that game because I like to be a rebel (I am a BIAB'er?) But what's popular (even if it's stupid ) is what sells and that's what they write code for (profit).

Cheers, I am off to work on "Cheese" Plus I am half in the bag testing the sour kriek beer and the mead. I bought a cheap wine thief and I am "testing" those high octane brews. I will pay for it in the morning! :headhit:
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Post #74 made 11 years ago
by PistolPatch
My first post from Linux Mint 17 Qiana - Cinnamon :party: :party: :party:.

This is a really nicely presented operating system and even on first use I find it a lot easier as a Windows user, than say moving to Apple (I definitely don't want to go there). In fact, I think I find many things as a Windows user a lot easier than Windows!!! This is really very nicely done :clap: :salute: :clap:. (Lots of stuff this OS will do than Windows can't btw - see here.)

I have a lot of drives etc on my computer so I had a bit of trouble getting my head around working out where and how to put Mint where I wanted it. After a lot of Googling I found some very good instructions here at itsfoss although most people would probably get away with the main user guide. (I ended up splitting a drive in half using Windows and then turned this into 'free space' using the instructions from itsfoss.

I can't see any reason why I can't use this instead of Windows. In fact, if I ran a small business, I imagine I would prefer spending the IT money on this than Windows for sure.

[The only issues I will have are possibly transferring historical emails (probably simple) and getting something like Windows Media Centre (I use that to record my TV) to work. I've had no luck on the latter unfortunately. (I'll also have to investigate BIABacus colours and formulas a little but I won't be switching to Mint until we have a main release out anyway.]
BobBrews wrote:You didn't answer my question as to why you are downloading so much?
That was payback for you not reading my rants thoroughly :). Read this properly old man :P,

What happens Bob when you own Windows 8.0 and make the mistake of accepting the free and fraudulent f/upgrade to 8.1, is that you now exist in no man's land. You have lost all your rights as a Windows 8.0 user and you actually aren't given the full rights to 8.1. Here's what happened to me...

Somehow (maybe because I did a clone thing?) some Windows 8.1 files became corrupted. This should be no worries at all because Windows 8.1 is the miracle system that enable you to repair 'on the fly' - you never have to do a total re-install again! After a few days of Googling I realised that I actually wasn't an 8.1 owner - just a recipient of the fraudulent upgrade. So, I can't repair my files unless I actually buy 8.1 which you and I thought I already owned. If I had stayed with 8.0 I could have repaired my system files.

So, then I had to reinstall Macroshaft 8.0, 8.0 upgrades, 8.1, 8.1 upgrades, Macroshaft Office (a billion gigs), iTunes (no problem, you have to do that all the time anyway - can't wait until that phone contract runs out) every other damn program I run (e.g. all the brewing programs I have bought to make sense of that nonsense) on top of working out what obscure directories all my data is stored in and how to back it up - e.g. Window Mail and Windows Live Mail and Window Live - I mean FFS. (If anyone wonders why we take such great care in naming things correctly here, the latter is a brilliant example.)

Later
PP

Logging back into Macroshaft now. [TS<>90]
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Post #75 made 11 years ago
by BobBrews
PP :shoot:
I actually wasn't an 8.1 owner - just a recipient of the fraudulent upgrade.
Whoa Nelly! You had a fake upgrade of windows? I heard of such a thing but never knew anybody that actually got stuck! Sorry old boy!

I spent a couple of hours watching " Eli the Computer Guy " yesterday, when I should have been doing something else. He has tons of information on Linux. I always thought is was a rouge version on Unix. Wrong! Anyway you might fined some good information there. It's a few years old but still relevant. He seems to like "Mint?"

https://www.youtube.com/user/elithecomputerguy

He must have a zillion videos about Linux and networking. Lots of crap too! You have to filter out the trash. :dunno:
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