Hi guys, What I'm thinking of is using a SS mesh to make a bag. Does anyone know the aperture micron of voile so I can match it with the stainless?
I was thinking of going with 415 micron but I can get smaller if needed.
Cheers,
Post #2 made 15 years ago
Theres no reason you couldn't go the s/s if you can get it fine enough. I think the best bet to confirm size is to go to a fabric store and get a bit of viole, they may even have a sample they can give you, then you can compare.
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Post #3 made 15 years ago
I've often thought about this. If you find a SS mesh that may work make sure to post some links. My idea (which I copied from somewhere else... can't find the link) was cutting the bottom out of a 3-4 gal bucket and replacing it with the mesh (and most likely reinforce it with two crossed solid steel bars). The problem would lie in that when pulling it you would only get drip-draining. Putting pressure on the grains would be difficult, though a weighted plunger-type apparatus might be far superior to the hand squeezing we all do now. Perhaps even some 10 lbs weights that have a corrosion free glazing would easily stack on top of the grains. Anyway, I look forward to reading about your projects success!!
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Post #4 made 15 years ago
Thanks guys, I've done some searching for the info but couldn't find it so I'm going to give it a bash anyway using the 415 micron mesh. You can get alot finer than that but I'm thinking it should be ok. Maybe the crush can be altered to suit anyway?
I'll pick up the mesh tommorow. I've already scrounged some cadmium free silver solder from work so if I get time I'll get started on the weekend. I'll make sure I take pics and post them here.
The mesh is $62.70 for a 1m x 1.25m piece so plenty big enough to get 2 out of (which is good if I stuff the first one when soldering).
Cheers, Mat.
I'll pick up the mesh tommorow. I've already scrounged some cadmium free silver solder from work so if I get time I'll get started on the weekend. I'll make sure I take pics and post them here.
The mesh is $62.70 for a 1m x 1.25m piece so plenty big enough to get 2 out of (which is good if I stuff the first one when soldering).
Cheers, Mat.
Post #5 made 15 years ago
Wasn't there something about "termite mesh" or something to shield a baseboard of a house against termites? Here is a quick link http://www.termimeshhawaii.com This stuff gives me ideas. Hey maybe BIAW Brew In A Wire.
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Post #6 made 15 years ago
Yep that's the stuff.. It's where I got the idea from. Termimesh has been used in WA for years but they don't / won't supply to the public. When I rang them they put me onto a supplier.BobBrews wrote:Wasn't there something about "termite mesh" or something to shield a baseboard of a house against termites? Here is a quick link http://www.termimeshhawaii.com This stuff gives me ideas. Hey maybe BIAW Brew In A Wire.
I've had some off cuts before to use for other stuff. It's really good.
Cheers, Mat.
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Post #7 made 15 years ago
I was in a rush to get that out maybe this is a better url
http://www.termimesh.com.au/
http://www.termimesh.com.au/
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tap 1 Raspberry wine
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
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Post #8 made 15 years ago
Another link with formed SS woven meshes: http://www.stainlesssteelwiremesh.com/s ... ilters.htm
http://www.wiremesh.com/catalogandpricing.htm
http://www.wiremesh.com/catalogandpricing.htm
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Post #9 made 15 years ago
I took an image the voile material I use on a microscope at work this morning.
The gaps in the material are ~210 um and each strand of material is ~125 um (the scale bar in the bottom right is 200 um in case its a little blurry).
If you can get a finer SS mesh for roughly the same price, you may want to consider doing that.
Cool idea though. Keep us posted.
The gaps in the material are ~210 um and each strand of material is ~125 um (the scale bar in the bottom right is 200 um in case its a little blurry).
If you can get a finer SS mesh for roughly the same price, you may want to consider doing that.
Cool idea though. Keep us posted.
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Post #10 made 15 years ago
That's exactly what I was after thanks mate..
I ended up getting the 310 micron mesh with 200 micron wire. Basically because of cost.
It cost me AU$70. To get 210 micron would have been AU$100. A bit much for a "trial" project.
Got all the bits just need to put it together.
Cheers, Mat.
I ended up getting the 310 micron mesh with 200 micron wire. Basically because of cost.
It cost me AU$70. To get 210 micron would have been AU$100. A bit much for a "trial" project.
Got all the bits just need to put it together.
Cheers, Mat.
Post #11 made 15 years ago
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Post #12 made 15 years ago
ExactlyEoinMag wrote:You're then heading in this direction.....http://www.speidels-braumeister.de/shop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ister.html
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Post #13 made 15 years ago
SacSoul wrote:ExactlyEoinMag wrote:You're then heading in this direction.....http://www.speidels-braumeister.de/shop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ister.html
Serious piece of kit those braumeisters, I'd be well into a 50l model
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Post #14 made 15 years ago
SS mesh basket / bag more or less complete. As promised here are some pics.
Thermowell at bottom of pic attached to inside basket.
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Post #15 made 15 years ago
Whooa! You will be a hero to us all if this works. Please keep us up to date on your progress. Inquiring minds want to know!
tap 1 Raspberry wine
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
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Post #16 made 15 years ago
+1 to what Bob said. I am very, very interested in your SS bag results. If you reinforce the sides of it you could make a simple plunger like apparatus to use to "squeez" out the bag pre-boil.
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Post #17 made 15 years ago
No probs. I'll keep you up to date on the progress.
Not too fussed about "squeezing" it. I've seen a lot of comments saying there is not much to be gained from it. Plan is to sit it above to drain while waiting for the boil. You can't really see it in the pics but the base is slightly conical to aid in directing the drainage to the centre.
Just need to read up on efficiency calcs so I can give you some numbers.
Cheers, Mat.
Not too fussed about "squeezing" it. I've seen a lot of comments saying there is not much to be gained from it. Plan is to sit it above to drain while waiting for the boil. You can't really see it in the pics but the base is slightly conical to aid in directing the drainage to the centre.
Just need to read up on efficiency calcs so I can give you some numbers.
Cheers, Mat.
Post #18 made 15 years ago
I used MDF mate. It's not waterproof but the only time it will see water is during washing. I might try to get something to waterproof it though.sigurdur wrote:This is very nice matr!
What type of wood are you using for the top ring?
Cheers, Mat.
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Post #19 made 15 years ago
Mat, what did you use to "weld/solder" the mesh together? I'm very interested in this, after mashing you could also use the bag to contain your hops during the boil.
Post #20 made 15 years ago
I used Dow Corning 732 Silicon. It is FDA approved. Wanted to get it spot welded but was too hard & tried to solder it but didn't work. (Would if you had the right gear though)wyzazz wrote:Mat, what did you use to "weld/solder" the mesh together? I'm very interested in this, after mashing you could also use the bag to contain your hops during the boil.
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Post #21 made 15 years ago
So when is the maiden voyage? If the silicon doesn't hold up you may be able to sew it with SS wire.matr wrote:I used Dow Corning 732 Silicon. It is FDA approved. Wanted to get it spot welded but was too hard & tried to solder it but didn't work. (Would if you had the right gear though)wyzazz wrote:Mat, what did you use to "weld/solder" the mesh together? I'm very interested in this, after mashing you could also use the bag to contain your hops during the boil.
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Post #22 made 15 years ago
I'm also really keen to hear how you go using the S/S mesh! I'd love a photo of the trub at the end of your boil! This innovation, combined with Wizard's S/S autosyphon could really change the way I do things!
Post #23 made 15 years ago
Just "mashed in" so we'll see how we go hey?
Post some details of the outcome soon.
Post some details of the outcome soon.
Post #25 made 15 years ago
Hey matr, how did the brew session go?
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