Does this recipe have integrity?

Post #1 made 11 years ago
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Brown Ale -I have converted an American Brown Ale via "The BIABacus" and would like some input into the integrity of this recipe?
This receipt came from Beersmith.
I have attached the file.
I have a kettle capacity of 45 litres.
I am sure that my evaporation rate is 5.00 litres and hour instead of 4.28
Original Gravity 1.049
Final Gravity 1.009
IBU's 33.1
Colour 30.8
ABV 5.2 (my conversion came in a bit lower, but thats okay)
Fermentor Capacity 25 litres and will control at 18 deg.
:interesting:
:drink: :drink:
I have amended file as suggested by "PistolPatch"
BIABacus PR1.3 -Brown Ale.xls
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Last edited by postmaster on 01 Nov 2014, 18:52, edited 4 times in total.

Post #2 made 11 years ago
Postmaster, the Recipe has the Most Import data in Place.

If you can find the Data on the grains used, and enter them in Section Y, it will help you hit the gravity numbers your looking for.

JMHO, YMMV.
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Post #4 made 11 years ago
Hi postmaster and welcome to the forum :peace:,

Changes to File - Is there enough info?

When we are questioning whether a recipe has integrity, the first thing we need to know is if there is enough information for it to be copied as accurately as possible. Most recipes you come across will fail in this area immediately as there is not enough information to determine the 'Volume of Ambient Wort (VAW)'. Without VAW, except in the rarest of cases, it will be impossible to know whether you are copying the recipe accurately. The basic information shown in Beersmith Cloud recipes lacks this information. [CHANGE: The link in your BIABacus file to the original recipe should be http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/ ... -brown-ale]. Without owning Beersmith and downloading the actual recipe, you will be unable to tell is the user has set up their batch size in BeerSmith to mean 'Volume of Ambient Wort (VAW)' or 'Volume into Fermentor (VIF)'. You will also be unable to tell which IBU formula was used.

You have obviously downloaded the recipe file, opened it in BeerSmith and been able to see the 'Volume at Flame-Out (VFO)' was 27.54 L. To turn this into VAW, you need to multiply that by 0.96. So, on the first line of Section D, we would want to see 26.43 L. [CHANGE: Change the 27.5 to 26.43].

You have done an excellent job on the file postmaster :clap: :thumbs: :salute: . Make those two changes above and it will be spot on.

Is it a Quality Recipe?

Even if there was enough information to copy a recipe accurately on a cloud site, I would never consider using the recipe without thoroughly researching the style unless I knew the author's background and experience. Anyone, even with no experience, can copy a recipe onto the net that malkes no sense. In this case, Brad Smith is the author and so I think you should be confident to go ahead with this without delving into any research.

Section Y - Do you really need it?

Josh mentioned above about using Section Y but I only bother using Section Y if I am using sugars or extracts as it will be almost impossible for most brewers to gain accurate specifications of their malts. The average values you come across on the internet end up being no better than the average formula we have devised for the BIABacus. Every batch of malt varies so save yourself some time and don't worry about Section Y for all-grain recipes. Doing so can also lead to giving a bit too much respect (placing faith in / believing are accurate) to brewing numbers that are very hard to get accuracy on.

Good job!
Last edited by PistolPatch on 02 Nov 2014, 18:30, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #5 made 11 years ago
Hi PistolPatch, :salute:
Thank you for your comments and words of encouragement.
I will make the two changes that you mentioned.
I did a bit of research on the good suggestion of Joshua and found exactly what your stated. "There are lots of malt variables in each batch".
It was a good exercise and for all the time spent trying to get the correct information, it only increased the overall grain by 54 grams.
Thank you for that Joshua. :clap:
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