BIAB equipment check / advice & comments

Post #1 made 12 years ago
Morning everyone, I am extremely new to brewing at home, having only done the "boil" part of the process at a you-brew store (they get the wort boiling, you add specialty grains, hops, moss, etc..)
I was inspired to start at home from tasting a friends home brew beer that was one of the best I've ever had.
I am seeking advice on equipment, batch sizes and a couple starting recipes.

My equipment:
-40L primary bucket (no lid, came in a kit and has a plastic sheet as a cap which my LHBS said should be fine and they packaged the kit). Should I get a real 5 or 6.5 gallon with lid and drill a hole?
-6 Gallon glass carboy
-2 plastic 5 gallon carboys (were used for wine). These are old, like 10+ years but appear to be in good condition, no weird smells or damage.
-Bungs and airlocks for all the carboys.
-Stir paddle/spoon. This isn't very long, maybe a foot and a half, should I get a longer one?
-Iodophor for sanitizing
-small tub of Diversol
-3 thermometers. 2 clip on for the pots, different manufacture and both seem accurate at ambient and boil. 1 floating which is accurate but takes forever (like almost a minute) to show temp.
-Hydrometer
-5 gallon aluminum pot. Nice and thick aluminum, restaurant surplus I snagged :)
-7.5 gallon aluminum pot. This is a turkey fryer pot and quite thin but boiled water outside in the freezing cold in a reasonable time (I believe 30mins, not super accurate sorry).
-Siphon with bottling wand. I have a "regular" siphon and an autosiphon.
-5 gallon paint strainer bags. Seem to be strong and well made.
-Miscelaneous 3 gallon food grade bucks from the grocery store (frosting) for free. 5 Gallon thin walled "ice cream tubs".
-Bottles. I have a hundreds of 650ml bottles from my "you-brew" adventures.

My desire/goal:
I'd like to brew as large a batch as possible each time that will fit my equipment. I would like to brew once a week and buy the fermenters as I go along, hence my bucket/carboy questions.

Questions:
-Do I have what I need/am I missing any equipment?
-What batch size should I be targeting with my pots? 4 gallon? 3?
-If I get 5 gallon pails for fermenting and a bottling bucket of the same size am I good to go (given my bottle reserve :) )?
-What is a reliable, inexpensive way to keep a thin walled aluminum pot at mash temp?
-Are my grain bags big enough for now? I intend to buy the well recommended bags from a user here in time.
-What am I missing :) !?

Recipes:
I love all beer buy tend to shy away from lighter beers. I drink a lot of IPA's and ESB's but also really enjoy a nice stout. Given the choice I'd almost always go for a decently hopped but malty ESB.
This is the style of recipe I'd be looking for and I absolutely will be using the biabacus (i'll have more questions then too!)

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to give all the information I can think of and lean on the guidance and experience present here. I've been reading threads for the last few days and have certainly learned a great deal.


EDIT:
My apologies, I also have a copper immersion cooler that my brother in law (plumber) built. I already told him if things go well he's going to be doing a lot of work for me :)
The good news is he is 100% happy being paid in beer.

Post #2 made 12 years ago
aridhol, no need to apologise for all the detail. Usually people don't give enough.

Your posting the above lets me know that you need to do some more reading first. You have lots of equipment and there are many options available to you and these all have advantages and disadvantages.

The first thing to understand is that BIAB, in its best and purest form is what we call a full-volume, single vessel method. You have lots of vessels above and these can work to your advantage and disadvantage. The first thing you must do though is understand the pure BIAB method because everything else is just a distortion of that. So read The Commentary thoroughly.

Once you have read that, read the "Sweet Liquor Shop" posts. There are three, here, here and here.

So, a lot of your questions remain unanswered at this minute in time but slowing down and getting the above sorted first will answer more questions than you think. Once you've done that, post back here and let us know where your thinking is at and what your new questions are and we'll go from there.

;)
PP
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Post #3 made 12 years ago
Thank you PP, I will re-read the commentary (maybe when not so sleepy) and the "sweet liquor shops" post was a great breakdown.
I think that I will scale down to 3 gallon batches using my 7.5 gallon kettle (full volume BIAB).

As per the commentary I am going to try an APA for the first batch. I've edited the amarillo APA BIABacus with my kettle dimensions and made a checklist.

Any feedback is appreciated and if I have missed something I apologize, there is certainly a lot to take in for a new brewer.
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
A few things are sticking out to me in your BIABacus recipe.

1. US-05 is an ale yeast and you have 7c as the fermentation temperature. Perhaps a typo and 17c was intended? 10 days might be a bit short, especially if you are fermenting that cold.

2. I would guess your attenuation to be higher, but I've never used Maris Otter before so I can't be sure. Probably around 1.012 - 1.014 for final gravity.

3. Mashout is usually longer than 1 minute. I do 15, but if you're trying to shorten you brew day then I'd suggest shaving some time from your Sach to allow a longer mashout.

Edit: also your EBC looks to be off for the Munich and CaraAmber
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Post #5 made 12 years ago
Good catch JackRussel, that definitely is supposed to be 17c and 10 minutes for mashout. I corrected the EBC as well as they were all off.
The fermentation length I copied from the APA recipe linked in the forum here. No issues going longer if recommended.


at this point I think I only have a questions about a potential cheap fermentation vessel but probably not appropriate here.

Thanks to you and PP for the responses, I will try this on Thursday and let you know how it goes :)
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