Just the facts Ma'am...
ABV - 7.0%
IBU - 60
Calories - 201
Hops - Simcoe, Centennial, Cascade, Amarillo
Malts - Pale, C-120
OG - 19.5
TG - 2.4
this is off of the new belgium website for the belgo IPA.
So I wanted to clone this beer starting with this, but I ran into a problem right off the bat. This beer is 7%abv 19.5plato/brix is 1.081 and 2.4 would be 1.010 if you calculate the abv based on those numbers you get about 9% so where's that discrepancy coming from?? Any one know somthing I don't. I'm trying to figure out how much base malt I need to use for this recipe in my 5 gal BIAB.
14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 91.8 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.3 %
12.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.9 %
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 4 32.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 5 20.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 7.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 7 1.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Trappist High Gravity (Wyeast Labs #3787) [124.21 ml] Yeast 8
This gives me 1.081 gravity and 60IBU in beersmith set up for BIAB at medium body. The honey malt was in their old lips of faith bottles of belgo before it went to 12oz and I'm just guessing with the ammounts of each of those to add. I made up the hop schedule and decided for first additions at 45 since I'm not big on IPA beers but I love pale ales and want this one to be less bitter but still plenty hoppy.
I don't want this beer to end up 9.3% but 6.5-7.5% is reasonable I just want to understand the brewery's gravity readings.
Post #2 made 13 years ago
How are you calculating the 7% abv? If reading it from BeerSmith, are you sure it didn't say 7% abw (alcohol by weight)? Using the Plato values you gave, that gives approximately 7% abw which is about 9% abv.
If you want to decrease alcohol, I'd start by backing off the base malt and little on the crystal/honey. You'll also have to reduce the hopping.
If you want to decrease alcohol, I'd start by backing off the base malt and little on the crystal/honey. You'll also have to reduce the hopping.
Post #3 made 13 years ago
With beersmith and the web I'm getting 9.5% ABV going from 1.081 to 1.010 or 19.5 to 2.4. By weight I get a little above 7% on the web and beersmith. The new belgium website says ABV though not by weight so why does it say 7%
Post #4 made 13 years ago
Original: 19.5 Degrees Plato 19.5
Final: 2.4 Degrees Plato 2.4
Alcohol By Weight: 7.3 %
Alcohol By Volume: 9.1 %
Original: 1.081 Specific Gravity 1.081
Final: 1.01 Specific Gravity 1.01
Alcohol By Weight: 7.6 %
Alcohol By Volume: 9.5 %
Just the facts Ma'am...
ABV - 7.0%
Could their website be wrong. The beer doesn't even taste like its 7% it's deffinitley not 9
Final: 2.4 Degrees Plato 2.4
Alcohol By Weight: 7.3 %
Alcohol By Volume: 9.1 %
Original: 1.081 Specific Gravity 1.081
Final: 1.01 Specific Gravity 1.01
Alcohol By Weight: 7.6 %
Alcohol By Volume: 9.5 %
Just the facts Ma'am...
ABV - 7.0%
Could their website be wrong. The beer doesn't even taste like its 7% it's deffinitley not 9
Post #5 made 13 years ago
I assume the website is wrong, unless I'm overlooking something too. They might be receptive to an email if you let them know you're genuinely interested in cloning it.
Post #6 made 13 years ago
Waiting for their email reply. I just went with 15lbs of pale belgian 2row and 1lb of C-120. I never cared too much about numbers I just do it and learn from it.
Post #7 made 13 years ago
Hi Nick,
Thanks for your question regarding Belgo IPA.
It seems you’ve identified a typo on our website!
The OG for Belgo should be ~16.0, not 19.5
Tastes good so far, not carbed up the last time I tried one after 2 weeks in bottle I'll try another one after it's been 4 weeks in bottle. It was crystal clear in the bottles but I see chill haze in this beer, as with most of the beer i make, and this was the first time I used an IC... Oh well I don't think I know what is causing my chill haze and I don't think it's going away.
Thanks for your question regarding Belgo IPA.
It seems you’ve identified a typo on our website!
The OG for Belgo should be ~16.0, not 19.5
Tastes good so far, not carbed up the last time I tried one after 2 weeks in bottle I'll try another one after it's been 4 weeks in bottle. It was crystal clear in the bottles but I see chill haze in this beer, as with most of the beer i make, and this was the first time I used an IC... Oh well I don't think I know what is causing my chill haze and I don't think it's going away.
Post #8 made 13 years ago
kartoffel,
did you hit the numbers you were shooting for?
i always add white sugar to my Belgians to help with attenuation.
a Belgian IPA sounds good. (BTW, i am also not a big IPA fan, so you idea for more flavor-less bitterness is perfect for me)
did you hit the numbers you were shooting for?
i always add white sugar to my Belgians to help with attenuation.
a Belgian IPA sounds good. (BTW, i am also not a big IPA fan, so you idea for more flavor-less bitterness is perfect for me)
Cube:
fermenter: Sourdough Spelt Ale, Classic Lambic, Oud Brune, Barrel Aged Belgian Dubbel
Kegs: Bob's Black IPA, Blanc Blond, Soda...
to be brewed:
fermenter: Sourdough Spelt Ale, Classic Lambic, Oud Brune, Barrel Aged Belgian Dubbel
Kegs: Bob's Black IPA, Blanc Blond, Soda...
to be brewed:
Post #9 made 13 years ago
Shibolet,
So are you a big fan of "sours"? I bet you could drink them all night?(BTW, i am also not a big IPA fan, so you idea for more flavor-less bitterness is perfect for me)
Last edited by BobBrews on 21 Jul 2012, 03:16, edited 3 times in total.
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tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
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tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
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Post #10 made 13 years ago
Try belgo from new belgium if you have not yet Shibolet. I say it's quite good for an IPA and I usually hate IPAs for their bitterness. I did hit my numbers and I got good attenuation. I can't remember them, hopefully I wrote them down somewhere but I usually don't give much attention to them. Only now as I'm well on my way into the hobby have the desire to fine tune things and understand the science/physics.
I am a fan of sours. La Folie and Duchesse de bourgogne are my favorites. Never got to try a corked and caged la folie though.
I am a fan of sours. La Folie and Duchesse de bourgogne are my favorites. Never got to try a corked and caged la folie though.
Post #11 made 13 years ago
BobBrews wrote:Shibolet,
Low, Bob. Very low.(BTW, i am also not a big IPA fan, so you idea for more flavor-less bitterness is perfect for me)
So are you a big fan of "sours"? I bet you could drink them all night?
Last edited by shibolet on 22 Jul 2012, 02:32, edited 3 times in total.
Cube:
fermenter: Sourdough Spelt Ale, Classic Lambic, Oud Brune, Barrel Aged Belgian Dubbel
Kegs: Bob's Black IPA, Blanc Blond, Soda...
to be brewed:
fermenter: Sourdough Spelt Ale, Classic Lambic, Oud Brune, Barrel Aged Belgian Dubbel
Kegs: Bob's Black IPA, Blanc Blond, Soda...
to be brewed:
Post #12 made 13 years ago
Shibolet,,
I was worried That you were going to miss that reference to your "off" morning? I had a shot and I took it!
I was worried That you were going to miss that reference to your "off" morning? I had a shot and I took it!
tap 1 Raspberry wine
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV
Pipeline: Mulled Cider 10% ABV
http://cheesestradamus.com/ Brewers challenge!
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- SVA Brewer With Over 100 Brews From United States of America
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