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Post #1951 made 11 years ago
Thank you so much for the replies...

Well the brew is done!! With a 3 yo girl nipping at my heals, visiting the brew shop to pic up the grain, neighbours popping over for a chat and the wife sending me on everlasting errands. I think i went well.

Pretty easy I fact, just keeping an eye on the clock and keeping an eye on the kettle every so often.

With a hectic day with my family I got a brew done. I think working at the timing will be the first thing I will concentrate on. Then when that Is second nature I will work more on the tech side of things.

Will update when I can. I can not stress enough how much this site has helped.

Regards
Greg

Post #1952 made 11 years ago
Lol Greg. Congratulations to you. Great job especially considering the distractions. And hopefully you'll never need to get hung up on the tech side of things. I think that often gets a bit over-rated ;).

Good stuff!
PP
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Post #1954 made 11 years ago
TXTom wrote:Here is the file finally. Thanks for your help all.
How was the zombie dust clone Tom? (Or anyone else that has brewed this).

Thanks, Nick.
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Post #1955 made 11 years ago
Trying to get my head around the BIABacus, along with the correct settings etc for my 40L birko..Planning first BIAB next weekend, and planning on ordering a couple of recipe's worth of ingredients at the same time

Have taken the amarillo APA along with a couple of other recipes I have been suggested, so if anyone wants to check they look 'right' that would be good... any glaring problems, wrong settings or basic recipe errors just let me know
(late hop additions have been set as 20min and will be cube hopped based on some tips I've received/read)


much appreciated
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Post #1956 made 11 years ago
A quick post but see the end re cube hopping.

Citra-Smash: In Section L, 21 is already written into VIF. (All files have that I see so, just delete that in all the files.)

Nelson Citra: In Section D, move your 'DR' one column to the right. If the right hand side of Section D is not populated, you have mucked something up.

Dr Smurto's: I spent some time with the Dr trying to finalise this recipe for BS2. I'm really short on time but this looks like nothing I remember so definitely hold that.

Amarillo/Centennial: Looks good except you have Centennial written in the file rather than Cascade.

[center]Cube Hopping[/center]Do not make adjustments. (Out of time but search 'Chilling Myths' on this site.)
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Post #1957 made 11 years ago
I am bottling my attempt at the Zombie dust clone on Sunday. Hoping it turns out well. Never tried the real thing so can't compare. Had to fight the urge to not add some Amarillo hops in there somewhere after doing the NRB Amarillo ale. Even put them in my American Wheat which turned out pretty good.

Post #1958 made 11 years ago
PistolPatch wrote:A quick post but see the end re cube hopping.
Citra-Smash: In Section L, 21 is already written into VIF. (All files have that I see so, just delete that in all the files.)
Thanks... missed that one.. Section L is for recording 'actual' data so future recipes can be 'adjusted' based on your actual outcomes as opposed to the 'estimates' BIABacus makes?
PistolPatch wrote: Nelson Citra: In Section D, move your 'DR' one column to the right. If the right hand side of Section D is not populated, you have mucked something up.
Noted.. Column 1 for the 'Hop Form', Column 2 for the 'Method'.. Fixed
PistolPatch wrote: Dr Smurto's: I spent some time with the Dr trying to finalise this recipe for BS2. I'm really short on time but this looks like nothing I remember so definitely hold that.
Will do.. copied it from the aussiehomebrew recipe area but moved all the late hops to 20mins.. will go double check it, re-work it and as per your suggestion below, ignore the summarising of late addition hops to 20 mins for cube hoping..
PistolPatch wrote: Amarillo/Centennial: Looks good except you have Centennial written in the file rather than Cascade.
Yep.. my brain still gets those 2 hops mixed up when writing ;)

PistolPatch wrote: [center]Cube Hopping[/center]Do not make adjustments. (Out of time but search 'Chilling Myths' on this site.)
Done and read...
Will re-adjust the hop schedules back to the recipes i found as opposed to merging 20/10/5/0 into a single 20min addition..



Thanks for the info.. Will re-work those biabacus sheets
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Post #1960 made 11 years ago
That's excellent Bob! That version is after I corresponded with Dr Smurto last so that is great to have it updated.

Only one small correction. On the right hand side of Section C, you didn't need to put the EBC as it is the same as the original grain. (You only need type it in if it is different.)

And one small suggestion. What I would do, is under 'Special instructions, is make a note that the 20 min and 0 min hop additions are based on 1 gram per litre of ambient wort. That will help maintain the integrity of the recipe for anyone not using the BIABacus.

Nice job Bob :).
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Post #1961 made 11 years ago
PistolPatch wrote:That's excellent Bob! That version is after I corresponded with Dr Smurto last so that is great to have it updated.

Only one small correction. On the right hand side of Section C, you didn't need to put the EBC as it is the same as the original grain. (You only need type it in if it is different.)

And one small suggestion. What I would do, is under 'Special instructions, is make a note that the 20 min and 0 min hop additions are based on 1 gram per litre of ambient wort. That will help maintain the integrity of the recipe for anyone not using the BIABacus.

Nice job Bob :).
Thanks for the help... and will make those corrections suggested (and use the term VAW in the special instructions as well ;) )..

Now to order some grain :drink:

I also agreed with your forum signature :thumbs:
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Post #1962 made 11 years ago
SilentBob wrote:PP,
Have re-attempted the Dr Smurto's Golden Ale based on his recipe shown by the man himself here - http://homebrewandbeer.com/forum/viewto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 11&t=11013

Using the 'award winning version' recipe as the source

Does this look more on the money?
Hi Bob,

firstly, thank you for posting this, I saw that thread by Dr Smurto a while ago and it's been on my to-do list.

Noticed on the BIABacus file that the title says with centennial but the hop additions are Amarillo as per the original recipe. Just wondering if that's a typo? Not a biggy and apologies if you typed centennial somewhere and I missed it!

Thanks again, this will be my next brew I think. The Sticks and Stones (Stone & Wood) PA clone on here somewhere is magnificent after being carbed for just two days, so many recipes, so few kegs!

Nicko.
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Post #1963 made 11 years ago
nicko wrote: Hi Bob,

firstly, thank you for posting this, I saw that thread by Dr Smurto a while ago and it's been on my to-do list.

Noticed on the BIABacus file that the title says with centennial but the hop additions are Amarillo as per the original recipe. Just wondering if that's a typo? Not a biggy and apologies if you typed centennial somewhere and I missed it!
Nicko.
Hey Nicko...
Yep, would just be a left over from my previous file... I intended to use some left over hops and substitute the Amarillo but when re-doing the file I decided to just do it with the original hops..
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Post #1964 made 11 years ago
SilentBob wrote:
nicko wrote: Hi Bob,

firstly, thank you for posting this, I saw that thread by Dr Smurto a while ago and it's been on my to-do list.

Noticed on the BIABacus file that the title says with centennial but the hop additions are Amarillo as per the original recipe. Just wondering if that's a typo? Not a biggy and apologies if you typed centennial somewhere and I missed it!
Nicko.
Hey Nicko...
Yep, would just be a left over from my previous file... I intended to use some left over hops and substitute the Amarillo but when re-doing the file I decided to just do it with the original hops..
ok thanks Bob, loved you in 'Mall Rats' btw.. :lol:

I might try it first with simcoe or galaxy, just because I have heaps here... Cheers.
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Post #1965 made 11 years ago
Planning on my second brew. Thought I’d try at making my own recipe, would someone be able to look through my attached BIABacus to look like I’m on track? :|

Took the inspiration from a Tribute clone recipe I found, but changed some of the ingredients to what I had left over and fancied like adding.
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Post #1966 made 11 years ago
I cant really comment on the recipe windrider as it does appear to be different from Tribute, I am sure it will be a nice drink though. :thumbs:

Did you see this thread I did last year here?
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Post #1967 made 11 years ago
mally wrote:I cant really comment on the recipe windrider as it does appear to be different from Tribute, I am sure it will be a nice drink though. :thumbs:

Did you see this thread I did last year here?
I did, gave me the inspiration to try something similar :salute:

I have changed it slightly after looking at: http://www.staustellbrewery.co.uk/beers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ge/tribute and decided to use the same hops. Changed the grain bill slightly to give my own spin on it, so hoping it will come out okay. First BIABacus file i've filled in on my own so just wanted to make sure i've done it okay :geek:
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Post #1968 made 11 years ago
windrider wrote:would someone be able to look through my attached BIABacus to look like I’m on track?
I'd say you did pretty well with the BIABacus. I just have one comment about your recipe, which you describe as Devon Pale Ale. 10% crystal is pretty high for a pale ale. I might recommend dropping this to 5-7%, replacing it with either the MO or Munich. I'm sure it will be good as you have designed, but may be a little sweet and approaching an amber. That's an even higher percentage than JZ's APA with caramel from BCS (although I understand this is more an EPA than APA in spite of the selection of US05 yeast over US04). Then again, at only 1.043 OG, maybe the higher percentage of crystal will add the necessary body for a Session ale.

Also, you'll probably get a little more bittering out of you late addition hops, assuming you keep them in during "whirlpool" or initial chilling, maybe up to 10 IBU from the two adiditons. Others have reported getting good results from specifying 12 minutes instead of 0 for the knockout addition; i.e., use 12 min in the IBU calculation but actually add at 0 and document in the notes. You'd adjust similarly for the 3 minute addition as well.

Finally, you haven't specified your chilling method. This might have a very small impact on the IBUs achieved. You may want to start fermentation for a few days at ~17C, allowing to rise to 20-22, assuming you have control over your fermentation temp. An ale like this should be good even if you can't control the temp too well, as long as you can keep it below ~21.
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Post #1969 made 11 years ago
Hi Y'all,

So my first 2 BIABrewer beers have been a great success so it's time for another! I'm going to brew cwier60's Two Cents IPA (http://biabrewer.info/viewtopic.php?f=5 ... 750#p37835). The 1.3K version of the recipe uses a 75 min boil. I would like to stick to the 90 min boil that seems to be common practice for most of the recipes. How do you recommend I alter the original hop schedule to fit a 90 min boil?

Thanks!

Steve
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Post #1970 made 11 years ago
shetc wrote:So my first 2 BIABrewer beers have been a great success so it's time for another! I'm going to brew cwier60's Two Cents IPA (http://biabrewer.info/viewtopic.php?f=5 ... 750#p37835). The 1.3K version of the recipe uses a 75 min boil. I would like to stick to the 90 min boil that seems to be common practice for most of the recipes. How do you recommend I alter the original hop schedule to fit a 90 min boil?
Steve, I think I reduced the boil to 75 minutes because I changed the 60 min hop addition to a FWH, and I was scared to increase the boiltime for the FWH to 90 minutes. However, you can see that the "original" hop schedule had the 60 minute addition. Therefore, I think you should be able to change the boil to 90 minutes. I can't say that I think I gained anything from the FWH addition, so I'd recommend just using the 60 min bittering addition.

This beer was delicious with a great hop aroma and flavor from the late additions and dry hopping, but I thought it wasn't quite as bitter as 2 Hearted. On the other hand, for this one brew, I thought that the bitterness was somewhat harsh, which is the opposite of what I had hoped to achieve with the FWH. The next time I brew it, I'll probably replace the FWH addition with a 60 min one and maybe increase the 45 min addition to try to bring up the IBUs just a little bit while hopefully reducing the harshness of the bittering. I know that BIABacus doesn't really handle changes like this, since it just scales everything, so I think you would just have to tweak the original recipe to do this.
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Post #1971 made 11 years ago
Thanks, Charles! That certainly simplifies things though the FWH seemed like an interesting experiment. Based on another recipe, my plan for the Flame Out is to add the hops to the bag, steep at 190-212F for 15 mins and then pull and squeeze. Does that sound right?
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Post #1972 made 11 years ago
shetc wrote:my plan for the Flame Out is to add the hops to the bag, steep at 190-212F for 15 mins and then pull and squeeze. Does that sound right?
I think that will work fine, but that doesn't mean that's the only approach. For my last brew, a hoppy Janet's Brown Ale with considerable late hop additions, I left the hops in for ~30 minutes post-FO. I don't have a pump or other whirlpool means, so I just give it a vigorous whirlpool stir a few times and then let it settle. It's still dry-hopping in the fermenter, so I can't comment on the ideal time for "steeping" or whirlpool.
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Post #1973 made 11 years ago
Yes, that makes sense since the aim is hoppiness (sorry, couldn't resist). As you can tell, I'm still trying to get the hang of this brewing thing. I guess if I keep the kettle covered for the 30 minutes then I don't need to worry about infections?
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Post #1974 made 11 years ago
Yep, no need to worry about infections but, as fast as I can....

There are many, many considerations when flavour and aroma hopping and there are very few experts in this field. The real experts, to me at least, are those who commercially craft brew. From what I have seen, they don't rely on numbers - they rely on experience, the brewing of the same 'label' of beer over and over again with the pressure of ever-changing conditions such as completely different hops.

We need to get away from this obsession of numbers on flavour and aroma hops. Any numbers you come across will be wrong. That is a simple, well-know fact and any software saying, 'click this' and your IBU's will be adjusted for whirlpool or no-chill hops is giving you a confidence (a feeling that you have knowledge) where you shouldn't have.

Flavour and aroma hops are not about IBU's. Please read Posts #1, 5 and 22 of Chilling Myths - Asking the right questions before reading on (and bump that thread please!).

If you have an immersion chiller, this is an advantage that craft breweries would love but don't have. My opinion is that if you have an immersion chiller, do not entertain whirlpool hops. Turn your chiller on at flame-out when doing an APA or IPA. That will give you a base point that very few other brewers can operate from and you won't be disappointed.

If you can't start from the above point/formula, consider the last paragraph of this post. If a recipe doesn't tell you that, then it isn't much use when it comes to flavour and aroma. Unfortunately mot recipes don't :sad:.

:peace:
PP
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Post #1975 made 11 years ago
So to be clear, Pistol, if I use my immersion chiller immediately after flame out, do I still add the flame out addition of hops as described in cwier60's recipe?
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