Lager Competition Recipe Suggestions

Post #1 made 15 years ago
A UK based forum is organising a Lager competition. Three sections, Kit, Extract and AG.
Now I'm going to tweek a kit and enter that, and I'm seriously thinking of doing a BIAB in the AG. Can any of you guys suggest a recipe :think: .
Enteries are to be in by March 1st 2011 so I've got a bit of time(they will be conditioned for 3 weeks after delivery before judging)
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Post #2 made 15 years ago
Sorry I can't help with recipe suggestion, but good luck with the comp.
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Post #3 made 15 years ago
Good on you Yeasty,

The two best lager recipes I have found so far are this Munich Helles/Pilsner and this Schwartzbier.

I have the fussiest palate when it comes to pale lagers. Gold medal winners are average compared to the Munich Helles/Pilsner recipe above that pHman gave me along with a few bottles. After 9 months, I had one bottle left and it was the best beer I have tasted. Before that, it was just very good.

If you are chasing a medal, or simply a brilliant beer, consider the Schwartzbier recipe. Schwartzbier is meant to be a lager but that recipe can be done with US-056 and fermented as an ale. Personally, I, and at least two others who have tried it, think this beer is better brewed under US-056. The comp is not until March so you could actually do several brews of this under US-056 to prove to yourself that this is a great beer. If you do have a win, I would notify the judges after, that it was brewed with an ale yeast. This way everyone learns of other posible ways of brewing to style.

Best of luck,
PP
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Post #4 made 15 years ago
Thanks for the recipes PP :salute:
Good idea to brew several batches. I think I'll have a go at both as I've very soft water where I am and I'm intersted as to how a Pilsner will turn out.

Thanks again for your help, and all the best for 2011 :party: :party: :party:
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Post #5 made 15 years ago
Yeasty, could you provide a link to the comp? Sounds peculiar splitting kits, extract and AG into different categories, but I suppose there's a rational explanation for that. One thing that comes to mind is to encourage and support all types of brewers in competing by keeping the field fairly level, rather than just an elite club of beer snobs, so I guess it may have some merit.

Our competitive efforts, hope to see your name on the list soon! There's an AG Munich Helles recipe in there of mine too, but I'm not completely happy with it to be honest, needs some more tweaking. The floor- malted Bohemian Pilsner malt is superb though and never fails to impress, decoction just gives the 100% base malt wort that subtle edge. Hops, ferment and lagering is what I'm looking to change, I'm planning to get back into them early next year (no, not as soon as tomorrow!).
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Post #6 made 15 years ago
Ralph

The comp has been set up by a guy on the Brewexchange.forumation.com forum in the uk. Nothing major just a bit of fun really to promote the site. The Brewexchange is somewhere for brewers to swap beers and have someone post a critique. I think the mix of formats is to encourage participation, as the guy organising is really into his ale, loves to swap brews and would like more members.

To be honest I know my way around a kit but I'm a complete newby to AG and BIAB. When I saw the comp I thought I'd tweak a kit and enter that, then I started thinking about BIAB and my plans for my first brew which was going to be a SMaSH of MO and Cascade, nice and simple.Then I thought how much harder can a Larger be? so I asked on here for recipes. In at the deep end I know but hey how many chances do you get to have your first AG brew judged in a comp?
The Munich Helles is looking good, PP's Schwartzbier looks tempting but I'm not sure about a dark larger.

Hope you don't thin I'm Crazy :dunno: and thanks for the interest. Can you post beer to the UK from Aus.??

Y

Sorry if the link don't work I haven't sussed that out yet :argh:
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Post #7 made 15 years ago
I've ordered the gear for a Munich Helles including the acidulated malt. I've just re read the recipe and saw the note on why its been included, which I failed to notice first time :idiot:

I've not got into Mash PH or Water quality yet as I want to keep it simple for as long as possible. All I know is that my water is Soft!! However after doing abit of research I see that it is an ingredient of Pilsner's. Do you think its best to take the recipe advise and leave it out, or does anyone think I could leave it in ? perhaps at a reduced quantity. The recipe has it at 2.7% of the grain bill. (I presume to fit with the authors water profile)
If I do leave it out do I just enter 0 on the spread sheet and let the other grains be adjusted to make up the quantity.

Cheers for your help

Yeasty
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Post #10 made 15 years ago
Yeasty wrote:I've ordered the gear for a Munich Helles including the acidulated malt. I've just re read the receipe and saw the note on why its been included, which I failed to notice first time :idiot:

I've not got into Mash PH or Water quality yet as I want to keep it simple for as long as possible...
Hi there yeasty,

I think this question might be impossible to give an instant answer. Water chemistry is dependent on either you having the means to know (measure) your water or having brewers close to you who can do this, help you out.

So, you need to go knowledge gathering either by getting some pH measuring strips, hooking up with local brewers and, of course by reading. I really like the links that 2XC offered above - top quality. The first one is more appropriate for someone starting to explore this area but the second is also very well written.

In saying all this, I am a firm believer in the saying, "If your water tastes good, then you should be able to brew a great beer."

Many brewers, excellent ones in fact, will tell you that something like pH is the most important thing in making a great beer assuming you have the basics such as temps, cleanliness etc right. I'm not sure about this though as I have tasted superb beers from some of these brewers but also some shocking ones which they think are faultless. Some of these brewers have tasted some of my beers and found them great but with which I have found a flavour that is most unpalatable (took me ages to track that one down!)

So, my great beer to them is not so great to me and vice versa. A lot of the time we agree but to date, I must say that in the water I have used in locations three thousand miles apart, sometimes filtered, I have not been able to taste a difference. My suspicion is that a few brewer's palate might have a sore point, something they really can't stand but that others don't notice. I have my sore point and I notice it in a lot of beers. This same sore point of mine is not noticed by a lot of other accomplished brewers, often BJCP certified. These same people will be able to identify faults I have no sensory capability of.

So, my philosophy is to adhere to the rules as best as you are able at your current level of knowledge but don't get hung up on knowledge. If in doubt, just brew it.

Then, taste the beer. Is it nice? Is it great? What do your friends think? (Women often make great beer judges with many styles of beer - they are more honest.) If you are getting positive answers then my advice is to simply brew on. Spend your thinking time on how to make the whole process easier rather than thinking, "I read somewhere that doing this does that and makes the difference between a crap beer and a great one."

The latter is true for some things but I, and this is just me, have never experienced it with a bit of a change in water chemistry. Even moderate changes from a sound original recipe seem to always produce great beer.

And I thought that was going to be a one paragraph answer from me :headhit:

:lol: PP
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Post #11 made 15 years ago
Thanks for the links 2XC gonna read them tonite

PP
Good words,,I was in danger of going off on a tangent (not the first time) when what I should be doing is following my own advise and "keeping it simple for as long as possible". So I'm going to try and get 10 different brews under my belt before attempting to change anything with my water.

Thanks again

Ysty
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