American Honey Ale - Total Newb - Low ABV

Post #1 made 9 years ago
Hi all,

Great info on this site and it's been really helpful.

I brewed an American Honey Ale and only got 2.4% Abv. I've attached the BIABacus file.

Fermented at 68% for 10 days, clod crashed for 2.5 days.

Any pointers would be appreciated. Possibly more yeast or fermentation time?

Thanks,

FatDog
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Post #3 made 9 years ago
Fatdog, your volumes look good, and so do your Gravities.

What did your Fermenter look like?

It appears the fermentation did not finish at 10 days.

Did you keep the fermenter at 20C/68F, or was it cooler?
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Post #4 made 9 years ago
joshua wrote:Fatdog, your volumes look good, and so do your Gravities.

What did your Fermenter look like?

It appears the fermentation did not finish at 10 days.

Did you keep the fermenter at 20C/68F, or was it cooler?
The fermenter was a solid 68F for the entire 10 days. I didn't notice any more bubbling from the airlock, but, I suppose I could have missed that if I didn't stare at it long enough. I haven't tasted it yet. I busted one of the o-rings on the gas in line. I was able to just enough gas in it to remove the air.
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Post #5 made 9 years ago
Did you aerate the wort when transferred it to the fermenter?

The fermenter should have been very active 8-12 hours after being transferred, and Aerated.

Without aeration, the fermentation could take 14-20 days to complete.

JMHO.
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Post #6 made 9 years ago
joshua wrote:Did you aerate the wort when transferred it to the fermenter?

The fermenter should have been very active 8-12 hours after being transferred, and Aerated.

Without aeration, the fermentation could take 14-20 days to complete.

JMHO.
That could be it. I stirred it well, but, it may not have gotten enough air. I'll look at that on my next brew. Thanks!
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Post #7 made 9 years ago
From what I see, you have done everything correctly FD :salute:. Two possibilities I can see...

1. The problem with liquid yeasts is that, before you get your hands on them, who knows how they have been handled? I highly recommend, especially when starting out, going for recipes where you can use a dried yeast and you could have done so with this recipe. They are a lot more hardy/stable and, for many styles, produce exactly the same results as a liquid yeast.

SOLUTION: Buy some Safale US-05. (I never re-hydrate dried yeast but in this instance I would). Re-hydrate about 8 grams of the pack in 80 mls of boiled water (or filtered water that gets rid of chlorine) that has been cooled to 25C. Leave for 25 minutes. If you can do it in a sanitised manner, get about 200mls of wort from your fermenter. Add 60mls to the rehydrated mix and leave for ten minutes then add another 60 mls and leave for ten minutes. Finally add the last 80 mls and then pour the mix into your fermenter.

2. The other problem could well be your mashing thermometer. Your desired mash temp was 68C but, if your mash thermometer was 5°C out, as many are, this could have really stuffed you up.

SOLUTION: If it is a thermometer problem, there is no solution on this batch. So many things can go wrong with thermometers even if they do work initially. Digital probe ones can stick, some thermometers are way out to begin with etc. You can never have enough thermometers and should always use two on a brew day. I had one of my old faithfuls 'stick' last week and it would have ruined the whole brew had I not had a second thermometer.

Reeflifeglass wants you to taste the wort to see if it still tastes sweet as sometimes, you can also get a dodgy hydrometer reading.

Please let us know what you do and how it goes ;),
PP
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Post #8 made 9 years ago
Well, I tasted it and it's definitely sweet. With the help of your comments, I'm almost 100% sure the yeast hadn't finished the job or it needed more air. I use two thermometers of brew day so I'm relatively sure my temperatures were correct.

Post #9 made 9 years ago
I tasted the beer again tonight and it's very sweet. I know what I'll do in the future, but, is there any way to save this batch? It's not terrible, just not very good.

Post #10 made 9 years ago
FatDog, if you have the "partial" wort in the fermenter, you could get some US-05, or another cheap dry yeast, re-hydrate it, and add it to the fermenter.

Even some Bread yeast, may get it started, to a Good Finish.
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