Original gravity 18 points under target. Any advices?

Post #1 made 10 years ago
Hi every one,

I've completed my second BIAB (All grain) yesterday. Everything went well but I ended with an OG of 1.046 @70F instead of 1.065. :angry:

I've included my BIABacus file but unfortunately I couldn't fill the volume informations as my new kettle has no water level indactor (I will solve this issue before my next brew).

I would like to have your advice for my next batch. Here's a few info :

I computed the recipe in BIABascus planning to mash with 30L water then add 3L before boil without sparging. As my previous batch ended way under the recipe OG, I decided to use the 3L water to fly sparge my grain on removal. Afterward, I sqeezed the bag had let it drain for 20 minutes and added the extra wort to the boiling kettle.

I started and ended with the exact amount of water/wort estimated by BIABacus, which make me belive that my lower OG is not because of an insufficent evaporation.

Unfortunately, I didn't measure the gravity into boil (GIB)... I could've spotted that the wort was below the estimated gravity and increase the boiling time/hop addition timing.

Here's a list of a couple thing that I've noted on different threads but I am wondering is it really what made my OG 18 points below my target?

-I did not let my bag drain long enough (next time I will let it drain until the last 15 minutes of boil)
-I did not perform a mash-out
-I added my grains when the watter was at 158F and it lowered the temperature to 152F (I was aiming 150F). The wort ended at 147F after 90 mashing time with a slight reheat that did not overshoot.
-My local brewing vendor milled the grain for me. I will ask them if they suggest me a finer mill
-Maybe it is something as dumb as I did not mix the wort adequatly before taking my gravity sample? (I whirlpooled the wort, let it stand 15 minutes and too my sample on the top layer of wort by taking care of not taking hop residues)

Should I try to fix these parameters as well as increase my grain bill for my next batch? :think:

Thank you,
Krown
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Post #2 made 10 years ago
My vote ---> "Maybe it is something as dumb as I did not mix the wort adequatly before taking my gravity sample? (I whirlpooled the wort, let it stand 15 minutes and too my sample on the top layer of wort by taking care of not taking hop residues)"

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Post #3 made 10 years ago
I your Volume at Flame out was(VFO) or Vulume of ambient wort(VAW) was or If there was any wort left over after the 5.02G/19L into the fermenter.

If you had 30.6L Liter of VAW, instead of 22.17L, your gravity was perfect.
64 gravity points projected / 46 GP obtained is 1.39., and 1.39 * 22.17 VAW projected is 30.6L VAW obtained.

Some of your gravity loose may be due to Poor Boil conditions.
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Post #4 made 10 years ago
Thanks for your answer Joshua,

My kettle has no graduation so I didn't measure the VFO/VAW/worth left over but after transfering my wort to the fermeter, I was exactly on the 19L line and there was approximatly 2-3L left over in my kettle. Therefore my evaporation rate was probably on point...

I had an heavy boil the first 45 minutes, and I lowered the flame to save some propane (and I was still getting some big boiling bubbles but smoother).
joshua wrote:I your Volume at Flame out was(VFO) or Vulume of ambient wort(VAW) was or If there was any wort left over after the 5.02G/19L into the fermenter.

If you had 30.6L Liter of VAW, instead of 22.17L, your gravity was perfect.
64 gravity points projected / 46 GP obtained is 1.39., and 1.39 * 22.17 VAW projected is 30.6L VAW obtained.

Some of your gravity loose may be due to Poor Boil conditions.
Last edited by krown on 14 Sep 2015, 10:27, edited 1 time in total.

Post #5 made 10 years ago
I hope that you are right! I couldn't find that much info on the best method to sample the wort. Do you want to mix it right before the sampling? Also do you want to take the sample at the bottom/middle height? I used a sanitized measuring jar and took the sample directly in the kettle during the cooling phase. Next time I will wait after the transfer!
thughes wrote:My vote ---> "Maybe it is something as dumb as I did not mix the wort adequatly before taking my gravity sample? (I whirlpooled the wort, let it stand 15 minutes and too my sample on the top layer of wort by taking care of not taking hop residues)"

---Todd
Last edited by krown on 14 Sep 2015, 10:36, edited 1 time in total.

Post #7 made 10 years ago
One other simple thing worth mentioning, how did you weigh the grain? Also, an easy way to measure volume, use a ruler to measure the headspace in your kettle, as long as you have the kettle diameter and height correct in section B of biabacus. Take the headspace measurement and put it in section V and you will get your current volume.
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