First No-Chill with Problems

Re brewed my Tori's APA. I've brewed this a few times now with good results. However, this time, using the same recipe, the beer turned out very bitter.. with no hop flavor or aroma.

I didn't fill in the spreadsheet completely However, I did a 90 minute mash and a 60 minute boil.

That said, I've just tasted the wort before pitching the yeast. I always do this and can tell pretty well how a beer will turn out.. I don't think this one will be any good...

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

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That I understand Bob.. I've had a lot of beers change a bit.. but none were even close to dumpers. I have never brewed a beer that was this bitter going into the fermenter.. and I like hoppy bitter beer. I've brewed this beer four times now.. and batch #4 is not going to change that much. Time mellows out aroma and flavor.. but, bittering.. especially this much bittering.??? This is an APA and not supposed to be a hop bomb

What I'm wondering is.. with N-C... do I have to change how I hop the beer. I did this beer like I'd do with my imm chiller. IOW, the wort got to pitching temp in a matter of 15 minutes. I would think.. now going back on my procedure.. that all the late additions become bittering additions because they are staying at, or near, boiling temps for so long?

That is the only thing I can think of that would cause such a drastic difference.

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HbgBill,

Some brewers cut back a bit on their hops. They cut back hop additions 10% or so for aroma hops. I FWH just about everything and use a hop spider for late additions. I pull the hop sack out so that the only hops to go into my N/C are the bittering (FWH) hops and most of them are stuck to the sides of my keggle at the high boil level. Whether the aroma oils in the late aroma additions isomerized in the N/C is a question? The aroma is there but is extra bitterness there also?

I do know that when I do a large hop aroma addition I pull the hop sack out so that the hops are out before no-chilling. After more dry hops are added to give my hop bomb added punch. I find my beers to be very harsh and nearly undrinkable. Weekly changes are monitored and the beer gradually changes to a excellent aromatic and very likeable brew.

The tacky hop resins stick to the sides of the bottles and lower the bitterness in quick order. Normally when I keep testing bottles of IPA's when I sip the bottle and exclaim "now it is perfect" it turns out to be the last beer! Damn!

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