And still another first BIAB brew day

Post #1 made 12 years ago
Hello all. Finally got the time to do my first AG BIAB batch over the weekend :pray:
The recipe was an 5 gallon AG kit from brewmasters warehouse (anonymous blond ale aka Centennial blonde ale). Seemed like a good straight forward kit to try as my first attempt at BIAB. I've been doing extract kits for a few years and generally liked the end product but they seemed to be lacking something. Also noticed that I couldn't seem to make lighter colored brews with the extracts and I wanted to have a batch that I could keep around as a "quaffer."
Anyway the brew day went well with only the typical stumbling blocks so that is a success in my book. I recently purchased a new 10gal brew pot but was disappointed to find that it only held about 9.4 gallons. This lack of volume pushed my mash to the limits of this pot. Looks like a new pot may be on the future wish list but it will work for now. I also seemed to be boiling off a lot faster than anticipated. Not sure if it's the pot (14"ht x 15"dia) or burner (105k BTU) but I ended up cutting the 90 minute boil down to 70 minutes. Not bad just unexpected.
Results:
My recipe had the following
7.0 lbs 2 row brewers malt
0.75 lb 2 row carapils
0.50 lb caramel 10
0.50 lb weyermann vienna

From the write-up I should have been trying for an OG of 1.045 so I'm glad that I came in as close as I did. Not too concerned about hard numbers as I tend to round off too much but I do want to get all I can from my process.
I mashed a bit too high and had to stir down to 155F for 90 minutes and did a 10 minute mashout @ 170F. Seemed like I held more wort in the grains than I was expecting. I hung and squeezed the brain bag like a bad milk cow for 15 minutes and did manage to recoup some wort. My pre-boil volume came in between 6.5 and 7 gallons which combined with my fast boiling cut me short.
I ended up with a pre-boil gravity of 1.032 and a post boil gravity of 1.041. Not sure but it seems close to me. All in all a good day. :clap:
In hindsight I think I could have gotten more water in the pot. It seemed a lot close to the top at the time but it looks like I still had room from the pics.
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Post #2 made 12 years ago
Well done on your BIAB & write up Schlitz.
Everything sounds normal to me. When it is ready let us know if you think it has made the difference (from the extract brews).

:luck:
G B
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Post #3 made 12 years ago
Ditto what mally said - good stuff schlitz :clap:.

Your mash volume level from the photo looks fine. Don't overload your kettle capacity. All that does is overload you :).

On the numbers side, the more you hang around here, the more you will learn which brewing numbers to respect and which ones to disrespect. Here is an 'essay' I wrote on this subject a few weeks ago. Have a read of that and the below will make more sense...
When you are starting out (and pretty much ever after), let your brew ride. Take measurements during the brew but do not act on them.
[Ignore advice, even if offered from the best of 'experts' to, "Take a pre-boil gravity and adjust your boil time accordingly." That is really just purely wrong and impractical advice. I've given up trying to write that politely :).]

Your brew is a good example. You adjusted your boil time down from 90 to 70 minutes because it seemed that the evaporation rate was higher than expected. You ended up with an OG of 1.041 instead of the anticipated 1.045. If you had let the boil continue for a full 90 minutes, you probably would have ended up with a 1.045 brew (assuming your hydrometer sample was accurate which they never are ;)).

Disrespect actuals!!!

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Before your next brew, run your plan through the guys here so as you or they can get your brew into BIABacus format. Doing that will give you the initial or even permanent freedom of being able to totally ignore certain brewing numbers or the option to explore them more.

.. There are a lot of colours and stuff in your pics that I am not even going to ask about... blue and orange thing, purple curved 'rod', more blue and orange stuff, a purple lantern and a pumpkin pic?

What drugs are you on schlitz?

:P
PP
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
Thanks all. I'm super excited about trying out the first batch. I also figured that a lower gravity beer would be in the keg a little faster which would allow me to enjoy the fruits of my labor all that much quicker. :drink:
I felt things went fine and there is always room to improve and make things more efficient. As with most processes it's often the little seemingly insignificant things that have the biggest impact. This is a long term process and if I mastered it right out of the chute then it would lose its mystic and become boring. Part of the appeal of brewing for me is that little bit of uncertainty and lack of repeatability.
Every batch is like a Christmas present when your a kid,,,you know what you asked for,,,you'll love whatever it is,,,,,you've got an idea of what it is,,,,,,,,but until you open it it's still a mystery. :party:

Pistol, you noticed all the bright colors huh LOL. I was in the family game room we have behind the house. The previous owner was a cabinet maker and it was his shop. Since we don't have too many basements here in the south and no garage it really makes for a great multipurpose room that has been game room central for my son and his friends. I usually brew on the porch but it was drizzly and cold so I moved it indoors. I didn't pick up on it at the time but the pics with the hydrometer were taken on the air hockey table with a bright colored Nerf gun and remote controlled monster truck as props,,,,,we're all big kids right.?
The rod is a piece of PEX hot water tubing I was using transfer to the fermenter. I couldn't find my regular tuning and I figured this wouldn't kink. I figured I'd run the first gallon or so threw a mesh bag to catch the first stuff coming out the kettle

So I guess I should be looking for my next recipe. How about something simple light or brown ale I can bottle off fairly quickly that might be a step up from my previous batch?

Cheers,
M
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Post #5 made 12 years ago
Ah, now I get the colours - good on you schlitz :P.

As for a simple light or brown ale being a step up from your last batch, I think just find a style that you enjoy and then find a recipe for that. I don't think any one style is a step up or step down from any other. Every style has a purpose and all of them can be brewed well or badly. A simple, clean-tasting beer is in no way inferior to something like an American IPA. They are just different. A Premium American Lager style can actually be as interesting to taste as an IPA with the right mind-set. Mind you, brewing a Premium American Lager style that was clean and yet subtly complex is a lot harder than brewing an interesting IPA so, if anything, a step up might be what others may regard as a step down :).

Nothing wrong with a blonde ale. I have one of those on tap right now and really enjoy it. I'll also brew non-fruity kolschs, 'plain' lagers and pilsners and these beers can be, without a doubt, among the most interesting and enjoyable beers for me personally.

So schlitz, just choose the style you enjoy most and don't for a second think that one style is better than another.

;)
PP
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Post #6 made 12 years ago
+1 to what PP said. Don,t get hung up on numbers or what people THINK YOU should make . Make what you drink so you will want to drink what you make. I currently have 3 different Blonde Ales in the pipeline and will be making another batch of a Centennial Ale this weekend.
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Post #7 made 11 years ago
Been a little busy recently but last weekend I pulled the tap on the first batch. Good news and bad news.
The good news is that the beer was very good. The bad news is that I only got two pulls off the tap before the wife absconded i.e. stole i.e. heisted i.e left me high and very dry!!!! :sad: Apparently I had promised the wife that I would make a batch of home brew for a conference she was hosting for work and this was the only batch on hand. I don't recall the conversation but she said I was in complete agreement. Being a happily married man I though about hording my precious liquid all for myself. I thought long and hard, really hard. In the end, though, I gave in and helped her load the keg into the car and watched as she drove away. Bye bye.

A couple of thoughts on the first batch.
While my sampling size was VERY small :nup: it did seem to me that the flavor is err WAS better overall than the extract brews I have made in the past. Nothing at all against the extracts but I compare it to cooking with 100% farm fresh ingredients vs just using a few fresh ingredients. Both are way better than the not fresh stuff but the AG just seemed better.
1. I did notice that the beer never did clear up like my others, not sure why
2. There was a distinct fruity aroma that I wasn't expecting. Not at all bad just wasn't expecting it. Didn't notice any fruity flavor just smell. Could this be a result of the centennial hops? I've never used this hops before.
Guess I'll just have to wait for the Caribou Slobber to finish.
Thanks for all the help guys,
M
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Post #8 made 11 years ago
schlitz ,

A fresh beer will mellow a little and change for the better usually. I am sure it would have been perfect in a week. You did a smart and wise thing to let the boss abscond with the brew. You have a excuse to brew and brew again honing you skills as a home brewer and to practice perfect husbandry.

The clearing of beer can take a short while or never? Much has been written about the subject and some information is not as important as just giving it time? Since the beer is gone we will never know but if it is consumed? It is a complete success. Centennial hops is in the "C" family so it lends a grapefruit aroma. Caribou Slobber is a good brown ale. I have brewed it a few times myself.

Keep up the good work and keep us informed! :thumbs:
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Post #9 made 11 years ago
Oh I forgot to mention one little thing that was a bit like adding salt to a wound. After the wife returned with the very empty keg she mentioned that the beer was an overwhelming success with folks raving about how much they liked it. Even the other brewers really liked it. I'm sure this was the best brew ever made and will never again be replicated LOL.
I am very happy that my first BIAB attempt was such a success but dad-nab-it I would have loved to have been the judge of that myself :nup: On the other hand, though, I'm looking for another recipe to make for an upcoming meeting at the end of March.
Now looking for a good 5gal light or amber ale recipe for a 10gal kettle. :party:

Post #10 made 11 years ago
schlitz,

It's all good news! Brew and stockpile it. Hide some in a closet for yourself. Good luck!
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tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
tap 4 Triple IPA 11% ABV

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Post #11 made 11 years ago
schlitz wrote:Oh I forgot to mention one little thing that was a bit like adding salt to a wound. After the wife returned with the very empty keg she mentioned that the beer was an overwhelming success with folks raving about how much they liked it. Even the other brewers really liked it. I'm sure this was the best brew ever made and will never again be replicated LOL.
Very few threads here I just get to sit back and enjoy. Thanks schlitz :salute:.

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Light or amber? There is actually a pretty big difference. Search "Krispy Kolsch" and "Amarillo Ale". Either of those will keep a lot of people happy.

Donya!
PP
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Post #12 made 11 years ago
Thanks PP. I always try to find some humor in my daily ejection from the mary-go-round of life :party:

As for the beer I've started another thread with perhaps a little more/better explanation. Since this next batch will be both an experiment for me with hops as well as being used for another work function I was looking to keep it "not too dark" just to appeal to the masses. I like just about everything. I still have a lot to learn about beer styles even though I've been extract brewing for years. My local area is smack dab in the middle of the old school, super socially conservative, give me ice tea or give me death till it's time to crack open an ice cold yellow fizzy water (approx 10:30am by the way) Heart of by God Dixie where any beer with a name longer than one word or not associated with an acronym is considered fancy yuppie beer. This keeps the good stuff out of many stores and when it is there it's a bit pricey. Needless to say I have come to appreciate the many everyday cooking uses of PBR. :interesting:

Cheers,
M

Post #13 made 11 years ago
This has been a very entertaining post Schlitz.
Thanks for running it.
When I told a couple of Mates in Oklahoma this last September, that I was going to research out, and Brew my own Beer....
The first thing out of their mouths was "Do you think you can make Bud Light"?
After looking upon them with disdain and explaining my plan, they left muttering something about "Damn Yuppie Beer".
This is not a problem though, as they can pick-up their 6-Packs of swill from the Gas station before they come over.
There will be more of the good stuff for me :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
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