Mash measures - water vs grain

Post #1 made 13 years ago
I normally mash in a 24l picnic cooler, with on average 5-6kgs grain in 10l water. I then sparge with up to 8l.

Reading a couple of books (Charlie Papazian & Randy Mosher), their mash volumes seem a lot lower in terms of the initial water in a one step mash. A typical guide from Mr Mosher is 0.65l for every kg of grain, but with more water for sparging.

Is it better/more efficient to have a 'thicker' mash and longer sparge...?

(I normally do 15l batches, and 10-12l of water + grain is the most I can get in my cooler.)

Cheers,
G

Post #3 made 13 years ago
Good Day, there are books out there saying the best water to grain is 7:1(quart/pound), Full Volume BIAB Is about 3.5:1(quart/pound)

In past times, a 1.5:1(quart/pound) mash was used for speed and diluted(sparged) to get a 1.034-1.038 Specific Gravity(pre-boil). This process is still used at AB/Inbev.

Sorry, but the Liter/Kilogram values escape me at present.
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Post #4 made 13 years ago
You lazy bugger Todd :lol:. I can hardly remember how I used to batch sparge :).

Gyro, the mash thickness question is a good one :peace:. I've probably got one answer and one question. First, I'm just wondering what gravity brews you are doing. For example, if I was doing 1.050 OG brews and using 5-6 kgs of grain, depending on my evaporation rate, I'd need to have probably 30-40 L of water 'seeing' the grain at some point. 18 L would give me a very high gravity brew.

As for mash thickness, the best 'no-nonsense' read I've come across on this is here. If you click on, 'Mash Thickness', you'll see that the thinner mash with modified malts, makes for a more efficient mash and this agrees with the professional brewing literature.

The Braukaiser site is really good for this type of info.

:peace:
PP
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Post #5 made 13 years ago
Thanks for all that.

PP: my ABV's vary, but on average are between 5.6% - 7.2%. Each grain bill is different (ny last Porter was almost 6.5kgs), but the water levels are pretty close to those described in the OP. I often top up with a litre or so of water in the FV to get to 15 litres, so think I should increase my sparge water by 3 or 4 litres....
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