anti-foam agent do you use one?

Post #1 made 15 years ago
I use a anti-foaming agent "Fermcap" I love the stuff. I was wondering if anyone else uses it or anything like it. I put it in the boil to stop boil overs and I also put it in the fermenter to stop excessive foaming. I have had enough exploding buckets for a lifetime thank you very much! If you squeeze a few drops into a foaming pot it dissipates immediately. The reason I started using it (Besides exploding buckets) is that a professional brewer who in in my brew club had a boil over with a 40 gallon vessel. He said the cleanup was horrendous. Now his brewery uses a foam control called "Fermcap". I bought some and have been very happy since. Here is a description from a web site...
An anti-foam agent that can be used during fermentation to eliminate messy blowoff. As soon as fermentation is over, this insoluble compound settles out and remains behind when the beer is racked. It will not affect the finished beers flavor, appearance or head retention. Can also be added during the boil to reduce the risk of boil overs. Use a few drops per gallon for boil, or two drops per gallon for fermentation. Comes in a one ounce eyedropper bottle. Keep refrigerated until use.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/default/f ... -1-oz.html

I might add I don't work for Northern Brewer. I buy my goods from a Local Home Brew Supply (LHBS) but they do have good product explanations! So does anyone else use this stuff or am I wasting money?
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Post #2 made 15 years ago
I've personally never used the stuff because I don't really have a need for it. I'm doing half batches so that means a kettle with plenty of head space and a 6.5 gal fermenter less than half full. But I've heard plenty of people talking about it on the BN forum. I can't remember off the top of my head any bad things anybody had to say about it. I think if your process necessitates using foam control, then you're using the right stuff and your $1.99 is well spent.

Post #3 made 15 years ago
I've heard a bit about this as well but like BBH have no need for it.

You'll like what I am about to say next Bob as it makes perfect scientific sense if you are aware of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle which basically says that the observer of an experiment affects the outcome of the experiment...

"Once you have done a few brews, you never get a boil-over. They always happen on your first few."

Seriously, I had two boil-overs in my early days and several near misses but now I never have to watch the pot though nothing has changed that I can think of. Maybe I now know just the right times to watch the boil??? I was only thinking about this yesterday as I had just brewed a double batch on Saturday where the pot is near to the brim. I actually was thinking yesterday if I could create a boil-over if I wanted to! Very strange! (Maybe single batches need a closer eye than doubles due to more atmospheric pressure :?)

So, boil-overs are no problem.

As for fermenters, I have found that even using the same yeast, recipe and temperatures, fermentation vigour can vary a lot. I started out with 25 L fermenters and filled them to 22 L. Rarely I would get a problem but when I did, it was messy. I am confident using US-56 to this scale and a few lager yeasts but I have since started scaling up to 30 L fermenters and filling them to 25 L - no problems at all.

So, I dunno what the answer here is Bob. I don't like adding chemicals into my beer because, who the hell knows what's in them really? I used to use citric acid, even vinegar (in my very early brews) to lower my pH. Now I add acidulated malt.

It's all good fun though and, as you know Bob, the beer always tastes great!
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Post #4 made 15 years ago
Very happy to see this thread. I've got a really big RIS I'm going to age for 5 years . I am planning on pitching it onto a nice S-04 yeast cake that an OcktoberFAST is currently on. I will be ~5 gallons in a 6 gallon better bottle but I get blowoffs with that often. So I got some Fermcap and was going to give it a shot. Two drops per gallon right into the fermenter at yeast pitching time?
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Post #5 made 15 years ago
PistolPatch wrote:You'll like what I am about to say next Bob as it makes perfect scientific sense if you are aware of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle which basically says that the observer of an experiment affects the outcome of the experiment...

"Once you have done a few brews, you never get a boil-over. They always happen on your first few."
Haha... a slight misuse of the HUP principle but funny none-the-less. Now, how to adapt the Schrodinger's Cat experiment to utilize tasy homebrews... :geek:
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Post #6 made 15 years ago
SacSoul wrote: Haha... a slight misuse of the HUP principle but funny none-the-less. Now, how to adapt the Schrodinger's Cat experiment to utilize tasy homebrews... :geek:

Ahh, but if you did, you would not be able to open a bottle or tap a keg to prove the beer was good.
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Post #7 made 15 years ago
I just started using fermcap two brews ago and it's great. I used to always have to worry about boilover especially when I'd add a bunch of hops. Since I'm trying to maximize by kettlespace now with BIAB it allows me to use my turkey fryer pot with 3gal(ish) brews.

Post #9 made 15 years ago
Wow, I got some for my RIS that I will be brewing soon, but it just happened to be on hand when i did my Strong Oatmeal Stout the other night. That boil began to really foam up, no danger of overtopping in my big kettle but I figured I'd give the Fermcap a shot and put the suggested 10 drops in....WOW, foam disappeared before my eyes :sneak:
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