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UK Urn Recommendations

Post #1 made 15 years ago
by eeyore
Hi all, im looking in to buying an urn for doing a BIAB beer brew.
Idealy I'm looking for a ready to go urn with a buget of around £100-150. Size wise i'm not 100% sure. Big is better but i'd rather have a unit that would last rather then one whice will blow up after 2 weeks :roll:

Does anyone have any recomndations for places to buy or what model to look for?
Cheers guys

Post #2 made 15 years ago
by PistolPatch
Welcome to the forum eeyore :salute:

Sorry you haven't received an answer as yet here. I don't know anything about urns so the only thing I can suggest is to search on 'urns' here and see if anything comes up that might be helpful in making your decision.

It is quite possible that there are no UK brewers on the forum as yet who BIAB with an urn so you might have to be the pioneer :peace:. So, make sure you let us know what you find and provide any links that might help others out who end up walking down the same path as you.

Sometimes, finding answers on your own, leads to some great finds. Winnie the Pooh could tell you that though eh? :lol:
:luck:
PP
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Post #3 made 15 years ago
by Yeasty
Welcome eeyore, its nice to see a fellow uk brewer and budding BIABer too. There's a few of us UK guys on here and there seems to be more joining so things are lookng good for the UK BIAB scene.

As to urns, 30litre seems to be the max in the uk this retailer http://www.leylandhomebrew.com/ stock them i think or try this guy http://themaltmiller.co.uk/index.php?_a ... ductId=192 its just a 50l pot I'm aftraid ( but very good value for the uk). If your not up to a conversion yourself give the guy a ring and he may be able to sort it for you. The backer elements he mentions are good as well, much better than any salvaged kettle element.

I've been thinking about my pot and how I heat it as I've got to get out of the house really, I've considered electric but boil time is an issue and I'm looking at a 25000btu gas burner. :think:

EionMag is a guy on here (Ireland based) has a large urn setup shown here http://biabrewer.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=306 it cost abit though :shock: he might be the one for a bit of advice. You could PM him, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.

Where abouts are you? As an Electrical Engineer I should be able to help you out with a DIY build.. :blush:

Sorry for the bit of ramble, hope this helps.

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Post #4 made 15 years ago
by eeyore
PistolPatch: Nar winnie the dident tell me anything... always found him to be a bit of a c*** to be honnest :lol:
The reason I askes is im totally new to this, and grain brewing... Was getting abit confused with it all (pre being able to see the linked files in the posts) Now its a bit clearer as I can see the how to's. :argh:

Yeasty: cheers for the link. Layland brewing is quite near (ish) my work so I'll pop in to them and ask about urns and stuff :geek:
I could be tempted with a gas set up as its cheaper. my only concern is that me being me... i'd get the biggest pot i can and never be able to heat the thing up!

Post #5 made 15 years ago
by Yeasty
I could be tempted with a gas set up as its cheaper. my only concern is that me being me... i'd get the biggest pot i can and never be able to heat the thing up!
you could always start off on a mini-biab, 19litre pots are cheaper and will still be usefull if you go bigger, and you only need your cooker hob for heat. You can then spend ya money on malty stuff for brewing with.
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Post #6 made 15 years ago
by Brewer Pete
Not in the UK but the best tip is to go to restaurant and catering suppliers and avoid the consumer retail shops and ebay specials if you want size and quality to not burn out after two brews.

It is also better to go with a large restaurant stockpot and two submersible electric elements i3 no urns can be had. Run each element on a separate electric circuit/breaker to handle the amps needed by each elememt to get to rapid boil after mashing then run a roiling boil on the single element.

Use stainless steel siphon with silicon hose if you dont want to drill out the stockpot.

Cheers,
Brewer Pete

Post #8 made 15 years ago
by Brewer Pete
Looks to be the goods with that urn. I am sure you could find an amp or watt rating in the manual but they really should post it online under the specifications. Watt/amp will help determine if its going to run on your circuit without tripping a breaker.

How well does it boil? Is there any boilover prevention feature needing a bypass to get it boiling properly? Exposed or embedded heating element?

Cheers,
Brewer Pete

Post #9 made 15 years ago
by Beer O'Clock
It maintains a constant rolling boil. It is quick to get up to temperature. Sometimes it gets a bit vigorous but knock it back a notch and it's fine. It has an embedded thermostat. I have never tripped a circuit breaker in the outhouse, even with a standard UK loop. No mods needed.

Overall, it's reliable and not too heavy. It's a commercial unit and back-up is good.
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Post #11 made 14 years ago
by SOS_OPA
Beer O'Clock wrote:It maintains a constant rolling boil. It is quick to get up to temperature. Sometimes it gets a bit vigorous but knock it back a notch and it's fine. It has an embedded thermostat. I have never tripped a circuit breaker in the outhouse, even with a standard UK loop. No mods needed.

Overall, it's reliable and not too heavy. It's a commercial unit and back-up is good.
Don't you just LOVE it when you go looking for information about some item you're considering buying, and someone has been kind enough to answer every question you had (and a few more you hadn't), and all in a few sentences?!

Thanks Beer O'Clock! :thumbs:
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