I am a little bothered when using my gas fired pot and I am looking a more versatile and space saving solution . I have found in my local market stainless steel vessel is provided in two volumes 75 and 50 liters . I am fond of the 75liter one but my concern is that they are not pressure formed like kitchen pots they are welded on the side and I believe the bottom part is then pressure crimped to the side part (they sold as olive oil or wine using a special cover storage container so are they suitable for foods )they are made from 304 SS but the material is not so thick I believe is 0.6 mm . Fiting a heating element and bring the wort to the boil does the vessel will survive or it will deformed (making odd cracking noises ) ?.
I plan to use a 2.4kw element not so fast as my gas stove I believe but more convenient I believe in terms of storing .
What's your experience / thoughts about my idea?
This is a photo of the above vessel described
http://www.hobby-garden.gr/product.php? ... 106&page=1
and this is the element I have in mind to use .
http://www.brouwland.com/shop/product.a ... =395&dt=24
Post #2 made 16 years ago
Interesting question nik,
Firstly, I know nothing about elements so someone else will have to help you out there.
The pic of the pot looks good
. Sounds a bit expensive but I have no idea of prices in Europe.
I have a 60 litre pot I use to store various grains in etc and it has very thin walls - possibly 0.6 mm. You can actually flex the walls of this pot without having to press too hard but a mate of mine brewed with it for several years - using a gas burner as well!
If you are going electric, the thickness of the bottom of the pot is irrelevant. So, the only doubts I have are this pressure crimp and the welding - the same doubts as you have so I am not really being very helpful here.
To be honest, I'd be a bit scared and would, if possible, do a bit more looking around. I use 70 litre SS pots and they have 1.2mm thick walls plus a thick bottom. When I double batch, I fill them right up and I appreciate their strength. I reckon it is better to have something you are confident in.
Aluminium is another perfectly good option and about a third of the price.
Be interested to see what you come up with nik,
PP
Firstly, I know nothing about elements so someone else will have to help you out there.
The pic of the pot looks good
. Sounds a bit expensive but I have no idea of prices in Europe.I have a 60 litre pot I use to store various grains in etc and it has very thin walls - possibly 0.6 mm. You can actually flex the walls of this pot without having to press too hard but a mate of mine brewed with it for several years - using a gas burner as well!
If you are going electric, the thickness of the bottom of the pot is irrelevant. So, the only doubts I have are this pressure crimp and the welding - the same doubts as you have so I am not really being very helpful here
.To be honest, I'd be a bit scared and would, if possible, do a bit more looking around. I use 70 litre SS pots and they have 1.2mm thick walls plus a thick bottom. When I double batch, I fill them right up and I appreciate their strength. I reckon it is better to have something you are confident in.
Aluminium is another perfectly good option and about a third of the price.
Be interested to see what you come up with nik,
PP
Last edited by PistolPatch on 11 Oct 2010, 18:46, edited 5 times in total.
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Post #3 made 16 years ago
G'day Nik, I agree with Pat. I would be concerned, not about the welded side, but about the press fitted bottom. I wouldn't get one for fear of the bottom falling out or simply failing. That said it will probably make great beer for years.
I use gas so I can't help you with the heating element, sorry.
I use gas so I can't help you with the heating element, sorry.
"It's beer Jim, but not as we know it."
Post #4 made 16 years ago
I have to agree with you with the bottom that's the part I am aware of as it is maybe is sturdy but when heat is envolded I am not sure what is gona happen with the physical thermal shrinking of the material .
I will look more on same type of vessels to find something more appropriate I believe the material thickness is not a problem I think the UNRs maybe they are using the same thickness so not much trouble.
If something came up I plan to insulate it permanent with an appropriate material to have minimal thermal loss .
The electric element is not troubles me I am familiar with power tools and electric connections .
May be someone who uses Unr can help me describing his vessel regarding material thickness and construction.
I will look more on same type of vessels to find something more appropriate I believe the material thickness is not a problem I think the UNRs maybe they are using the same thickness so not much trouble.
If something came up I plan to insulate it permanent with an appropriate material to have minimal thermal loss .
The electric element is not troubles me I am familiar with power tools and electric connections .
May be someone who uses Unr can help me describing his vessel regarding material thickness and construction.
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