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Post #4 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
That 40L will be better Scott,

You may have to hold back a bit of water until after you have mashed and top up the boil but it should be ok.
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Post #5 made 14 years ago
by PistolPatch
That will be much better Scott. You'll kick yourself down the track if you go too small. The bigger pot will save you mucking around and allow you to 'single vessel,' A 40 litre urn, depending on it's evaporation rate and your trub management should allow you to do no, or at least minimal top-up.

I see Yeasty's beaten me with almost exactly the same first sentence :lol:.

And welcome to the forum too Scott :salute:
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Post #6 made 14 years ago
by Scottfisher74
Many thanks for your replies and advice. So, just one more newbie question I promise. Would a water boiler like the 40l Buffalo be preferable to the Electrim Masher and Boiler from here:
http://www.art-of-brewing.co.uk/acatalo ... ___18.html

Just want to get it very clear in my head before I make my final decision!

Again, thanks for being so supportive to us newbies...
Last edited by Scottfisher74 on 29 Nov 2011, 04:21, edited 4 times in total.

Post #7 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
I'd go with the Buffalo, I've never liked the idea of those plastic boilers although there are plenty of guys who do use them. The buffalo will last longer and has a bigger capacity.
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Post #8 made 14 years ago
by stux
Great, Scott :)
Fermenting: -
Cubed: -
Stirplate: -
On Tap: NS Summer Ale III (WY1272), Landlord III (WY1469), Fighter's 70/- II (WY1272), Roast Porter (WY1028), Cider, Soda
Next: Munich Helles III

5/7/12

Post #10 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
:clap: :clap: :clap: Well done..it always feels good when you bag a deal. Cheaper than the plastic boiler too :lol:

You haven't said what your "tastes" are unless your like me and like all beer :yum: so as to a recipe I'd have a look in the recipe section here. NRB's APA is reported to be a fine brew, tried and tested and I've brewed the Minich Helles which is really good and gets better with age I'm told.

Or you could just do a SMaSH of Pale malt and a hop you fancy at 60,15 & 5 minutes , keeping it simple during your first brew will allow you to concentrate on your method.

:luck:

Yeasty
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Post #11 made 14 years ago
by PistolPatch
That's great Scott. You must be pleased with that.

NRB's All Amarillo APA is a great beer. It's one of my permanents. You can play around with it a lot and still end up with something very tasty and that pretty much all palates enjoy.

But, as Yeasty said,let us know what you like and I'm sure we'll find something.

Good stuff!
PP
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Post #12 made 14 years ago
by Scottfisher74
Been using Graham Wheeler's bible to brew with extract for last 18 months or so and my favourite brew so far was Timothy Taylor Landlord. Can I just use his recipes in BIAB or will I need to adjust amounts of malt due to efficiency?

If so, I will probably do a SMaSH with Fuggles and have a play around...

Thanks for help, can't wait to get started now...

Post #13 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
TTL is totally doable just 2 malts 2 hops.. I'm sure its been mentioned on here before someone may have it on a calculator already...do you use the calc or other software ??
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Post #15 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
If you get stuck post your boiler diameter and how much you want into the fermenter and I'll look into it for you. I've got GW's book.
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Post #17 made 14 years ago
by PistolPatch
Scottfisher74 wrote:Been using Graham Wheeler's bible to brew with extract for last 18 months or so and my favourite brew so far was Timothy Taylor Landlord. Can I just use his recipes in BIAB or will I need to adjust amounts of malt due to efficiency?
Ecery recipe you come across will always need some sort of conversion. Here's a quote from BIABrewer...
Whether you BIAB, batch-sparge or fly-sparge, any recipe you see on the net or in a book needs to be converted to your own equipment's evaporation rate, efficiency and batch size. The only time that a recipe would never need any adjustments is if the brewer whose recipe you were using happened to have exactly the same evaporation rate, efficiency and batch size that you have/want. This, of course, is never the case.
Yeasty's excellent at recipe conversion so you are in safe hands. When he asks for your kettle diameter, he will use this to estimate your kettle evaporation rate. If you already know from your extract brewing, how many litres you boil off in an hour from your kettle, you can give him this figure instead.

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any calculators around for Mac at the moment although I believe the new BIABacus being developed will eventually run in Libre or Open Office.

:luck:
PP
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Post #18 made 14 years ago
by Scottfisher74
Well I received my bargain Buffalo boiler (which is now destined to be a Christmas present! :sad: ), so will have to wait a while to do my first BIAB brew in it! I must admit I think I've got a bit of a bargain. There is one tiny dent in the body of the boiler and some minimal limescale to scrub out but otherwise it's like new!!

That hasn't stopped me plotting though!

Yeasty, the diameter of my boiler is 38.3cm going across at the top (hope this is the correct way to measure!), and I'm intending on brewing 23litre batches to fit in with Graham Wheeler's recipes. Is there some sort of magic formula that you can apply to help me work out my quantities

Post #19 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
Fecking santa he's a right B@st##d making you wait. :lol:

Your measurement is correct in being across the top. 23L into fermenter is good to so we are cooking on gas!!

There is no magic formula but with enough info and some detective work most recipes can be converted. I say converted but really its a case of scaling a recipe to your equipment and efficiency. The calculator is in excel format so if you have access to this it would be an advantage. It may work in open office ?? (someone confirm !!??) let me know what you have access to. I'll convert the TTL recipe and post it anyway.

:salute:

Yeasty
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Post #20 made 14 years ago
by Scottfisher74
Fab, many thanks Yeasty! Yes, I have access to Excel through Apple Numbers and I also have Excel 2011 installed on my Mac too so I can use that if necessary!! It is a bit of a pain having to wait but I have enough extract left to brew 1 last batch before I move to BIAB...

Just one more newbie question can someone help me with? Will the Mashing and Sparging bag available here:
http://www.hopandgrape.com/public/detai ... AS20265829
fit my boiler okay to do the mash or do I need to get one custom made?

Thanks again for help Yeasty. I will post again when I've worked out what my first BIAb brew is going to be.
Last edited by Scottfisher74 on 02 Dec 2011, 06:22, edited 4 times in total.

Post #23 made 14 years ago
by Yeasty
Hi Scott

I'd go with the link as per Stux's post. Eoinmag is a seasoned Biaber and his bags are custom made to your boiler and cheap considering what goes into making them.

Funny you mentioned the Hop & Grape their shop is 20 yrds (if that)from my mums house !! last time I was in I mentioned Biab and to be honest it went over there head. No profit in a bit of voile I suppose..
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Post #24 made 14 years ago
by Beachbum
Sounds like you're getting it all together. For that lime scale, try getting a little tub or two of citric acid from the baking goods section at the supermarket, make up a strong solution and scrub the inside of the boiler and the element with one of those green kitchen scrubby things, wearing rubber gloves, leave for a couple of hours and the scale should just rot away without need for elbow grease. I do mine every four to six brews, brings it up like new.
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