Hi,
Could someone please comment on the Section C "Natural Priming" setting? I noticed that it affects the calculated ABV value, but it's not clear why or how.
Cheers
BDP
Post #2 made 11 years ago
If you add sugar to prime, you will affect the ABV.
If you force carbonate, the beer will remain the same ABV.
If you force carbonate, the beer will remain the same ABV.
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Post #3 made 11 years ago
BDP
As Mally says, If you add sugar you give the yeast a bit more to eat and hence a higher ABV.
You can carbonate by either adding sugar at packaging time (Priming) or by adding CO2 manually (forced carbonation). I prefer priming, but only because it's slightly easier and I have the time.
Majorphill
As Mally says, If you add sugar you give the yeast a bit more to eat and hence a higher ABV.
You can carbonate by either adding sugar at packaging time (Priming) or by adding CO2 manually (forced carbonation). I prefer priming, but only because it's slightly easier and I have the time.
Majorphill
Post #4 made 11 years ago
Thanks folks for the responses. 
So then ABV% should increase the more priming sugar is added (section Q)? Up to some upper limit I would imagine?
I wasn't sure if this really meant 'naturally conditioned', i.e. conditioned without adding priming sugar. To my mind, the words 'natural' and 'priming' don't really go together in the context of adding sugar, only because the alternative seems more 'natural'. Clear Brewing Terminology, anyone?
Cheers!
BDP
So then ABV% should increase the more priming sugar is added (section Q)? Up to some upper limit I would imagine?I wasn't sure if this really meant 'naturally conditioned', i.e. conditioned without adding priming sugar. To my mind, the words 'natural' and 'priming' don't really go together in the context of adding sugar, only because the alternative seems more 'natural'. Clear Brewing Terminology, anyone?
Cheers!
BDP
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Post #5 made 11 years ago
I look at natural as in nature i.e. something biological is making your fizz.
Unnatural is a stonking big cylinder full of c02, and a hairy armed man to open the valve!
Unnatural is a stonking big cylinder full of c02, and a hairy armed man to open the valve!
G B
I spent lots of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered
I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
I spent lots of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered
I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
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Post #6 made 11 years ago
It should BDP but I have not programmed that precision in for several reasons...BDP wrote:So then ABV% should increase the more priming sugar is added (section Q)? Up to some upper limit I would imagine?
1. No other program, commercial or free, even begins to address this issue (like so many other issues).
2. It would be very easy to program in a 'proper program' but very difficult in a spreadsheet. I have already over-loaded the spreadsheet in many facets. Getting this priming facet exact is a low priority. The default I have used for this will be very good on nearly all recipes.
3. I'll think on the clear terminology thing but, firstly, you are correct. Like so many other brewing terms we have addressed, I am sure that this area is another one we can make easier. I'm flat out atm and am only answering questions on the forum now as a bit of a relax/ret/break so, please BDP (and anyone else), think hard on this area and either PM me or post your ideas/solutions here.
PP
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Post #7 made 11 years ago
PistolPatch, How much Sugar is used in this Priming Situation??
I prime with 2-4gr per Liter, That amount of sugar, When it is planned to be fermented, gives much less than 1% ABV, Much Less.
I prime with 2-4gr per Liter, That amount of sugar, When it is planned to be fermented, gives much less than 1% ABV, Much Less.
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Post #8 made 11 years ago
In 1 example of BIABacus it made 0.2% ABV difference if natural was/wasn't selected (1.050 O.G. wort).
G B
I spent lots of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered
I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
I spent lots of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered
I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
I ONCE gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life
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Post #9 made 11 years ago
Mally, Good Data.
In Soda making, they prime At the same rate WE do, and No one notices the ABV.
In Soda making, they prime At the same rate WE do, and No one notices the ABV.
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Post #10 made 11 years ago
Mally, I've learned to never argue with hairy armed men . Thanks for that mental image though - I enjoyed a good chuckle.
Cheers
. Thanks for that mental image though - I enjoyed a good chuckle.Cheers
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Post #11 made 11 years ago
Hi PP, it's good to know how to interpret this feature, so thanks very much for the info. The terminology in general is the clearest of any that I've come across. It's just this one I struggled with, and I'll let you know if inspiration strikes.
Cheers
Cheers
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