First BIAB - lower OG, and a strange (fast) fermentation

Post #1 made 13 years ago
Did my first BIAB this past Wednesday. Made a mistake when milling the grain, and got it somewhat too coarse, so my OG was off from what I had initially calculated (Calc: 1.063, actual 1.046).

The recipe was supposed to be a 5-gallon batch of 'Space Needle IPA', which appears to closely mimic Seattle's Pike Place Brewing 'Space Needle Golden Anniversary IPA' that they worked up.

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Grain:
Pale Malt 2 row: 8.5 Lb
Pale Maris Otter: 1.5 Lb
Crystal (60L): .75 Lb
Munich (10L): .75 Lb
Pilsner 2 row: .5 Lb
Wheat Malt: .5 Lb

Hops:
Chinook 13AA, 1 Oz, 60 minutes (Substituted for Columbus 13AA)
Centennial 10.5AA, 1 Oz, 15 minutes
Cascade 8.9AA, 1 Oz, 10 minutes
Citra 13.5AA, 1 Oz, 5 minutes
Summit 18.1AA, 1 Oz, 5 minutes
Cascade 8.9AA, 0 minutes
Summit 18.1AA, 0 minutes

90 minute mash @ 152 F
90 minute boil
Wyeast #1056 - 1 packet
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I got everything drained out of the pot and into the primary, got the temp down to 60F, pitched the yeast, put on a blowoff tube, and waited 2 days. I saw about a 1" kreusen that then fell on the first afternoon within about 6 hours of pitching, but nothing ever reached the blowoff. I put on the fermentation lock on Friday and saw about 1 bubble every minute or two - not a very active fermentation. I thought that it was not going, or that I had a bad seal and CO2 was leaking out, but when I took a small sample yesterday I realized that it appeared to *have* gone through the full fermentation already - although very fast! It looked and tasted pretty much like beer. I racked to secondary today to get it off the trub (and used the spent yeast sludge to make some yummy 'beer soft pretzels'). I'll keep an eye on it for a week or so then bottle it after everything looks nice and clear. FG reading today was 1.012, so it looks like a somewhat light (~4.5 ABV) brew instead of the 6.4% IPA that I was aiming for.

When I examined the spent grain I realized that I had a lot of whole grains, not cracked in any noticeable fashion. I believe that I probably had the mill set wrong at the local homebrew shop. This should account for the somewhat lower OG figures.

What I tasted when I took the FG was actually quite tasty. I never did a brew that was essentially done with fermentation in 2 days though.

Overall the process was quite easy. I used the various tools available here (the Commentary and the Checklist, mostly, along with the Calculator). I need to make a few minor adjustments to how I do things to make it go a little more smoothly. Looking forward to cracking open a few bottles of this, and working up the next batch.

Thanks, folks, for all the help I was able to get from the various messages here before I got started!
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Post #2 made 13 years ago
Good Day SeattleVet, It is not abnormal to finish Primary fermentation in 48hours.

If everything was in place and the "Beer Gods" were on your side, it will finsh very fast!

You are Correct, a Very Coarse grind does drop the Effiency.

The 1.012 is normal when you go the Seconday, so, you may Finish out around 1.008.
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Post #3 made 13 years ago
Congrats on your first one SV :thumbs:,

The nice thing about all-grain is that you can have a bit of a hiccough and still get a great beer at the end of the day.

With some mills, running the grain through twice will get the uncracked grains cracked without changing the gap. I've never been able to understand the logic of it but have had to do this on two mills I can think of. Both has small rollers.

That looks like a tasty recipe too :party:,
PP
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Post #4 made 13 years ago
Thanks, guys!

The milling was purely my fault. When I placed the bag I bumped the lever to a coarser crush than the normally recommended one. I noticed it mid-crush and put it to the finer crush, so perhaps up to 1/4 of the grain was at 'coarse' and the rest was normal. Since the BIAB process permits an even finer crush (harder to get a gumball in the bag; don't have to worry about a stuck sparge) I think my efficiency will be much better on the next batch.

All seems to be going well at this point. I'll let you knowhow it went after I bottle, sample, and sober up!
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Post #5 made 13 years ago
SV,

Way to go on your first BIAB!

I have missed low my OG on some of my brews as well. Maybe look at your final volumes? Did you end up with more wort than you expected? This has happened to me when I started with to much water or didn't have a strong enough boil. I have extended my boil times to reduce my final volume in these cases and generally ended up close to my target OG.

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Post #6 made 13 years ago
OK, bottled this batch today. FG was 1.012 (never went any lower after I racked to the secondary - fermentation had completed within 48 hours of the start), pale golden color (between SRM 4 & 5), great hop aroma, and tastes *wonderful*, even pre-conditioning.

My final volume was what was expected (actually a little bit less - maybe 2 liters or so low). I was at the brew shop yesterday to pick up some additional goodies and took a closer look at the mill. I had bumped it to the coarsest possible, when I wanted the next to the finest crush. Probably 1/4 to 1/3 of the grain ran with the coarse setting. If I had thought of it I would have stopped and run it through again. I'll just be a little more careful next time.

Looking forward to opening a bottle in about 3 weeks to see how well it conditioned. Right now this one looks to be a winner!
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Post #7 made 13 years ago
Shared some last night - tastes good, took about 3 weeks to condition, but it'll be better in another 2 weeks. Getting ready to do a nice little Porter next.

Buon Natale a tutti!!
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Post #8 made 13 years ago
Buon Natale a voi!

To me, the original recipe and the yeast look very robust and so will take a few gravity/hop 'accidents.' How could anything with that grain and hop bill not taste good? :yum:

Don't over-compensate on the next crush SV. You don't want flour. On some mills, you are better off running the grain through twice on a coarser setting than once on a fine setting. Think I just realised the reason for this...

I think the pattern on some rollers probably allows some grains to lie in the impregnation rather than being crushed. A second run gives them a second chance at 'falling in' the right way. (Another cause of an erratic crush might be slightly worn bearings :think:)

Great to hear you and some others enjoyed your first BIAB at Christmas.

:thumbs:
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Post #9 made 13 years ago
I ran the grain bill for the porter through the slightly finer crush. It looks nicely cracked, but not tiny pieces. Have to pickup a little Magnum and another tank of propane then we'll fire up the burner and (hopefully) get the brew done today.

I'm anxious to see how this one comes out - especially since my dear, sweet wife got me a complete kegging system for Christmas! We were all a little confused when she handed me a stocking with a long spiral wrapped bit hanging from it - that was the CO2 hose, and she had wrapped it like a snake. After opening the next bit and finding a regulator and cobra-head dispenser I was pretty certain I knew what the bigger package was.
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