Another First BIAB!

Post #1 made 14 years ago
Finally got around to doing my first BIAB on Sunday, and it went pretty well. There was only really one problem, although it could be a major one! I'm not sure my kitchen hob is quite up to the task!

I did Hashie's Old Speckled Hen clone from the recipes board, but without the golden syrup. I Checked my figures in the "Convert Your Recipes" thread and got some minor corrections and advice, thanks guys!

The mash went smoothly, insulated my 20Ltr pot with a few tea towels and only lost 2 degrees over the 90 mins.
The boil however wasn't so good! It took ages to reach the boil from mash temp, well over an hour and when it did I'm not sure it was a proper rolling boil. I think it was more than a simmer, but not very vigorous. Is this likely to have a huge effect on the finished beer?
It will definitely be weaker than expected, I ended losing just under 2 ltrs to evaporation rather than the expected 4.5 (90 min boil) and the gravity was 1.046 rather than the expected 1.048 (this is from what I remember anyway, I haven't got the figures to hand!)
The strength doesn't really bother me though, as long as it tastes good!

At the end of the day I have a couple of gallons of stuff that looks and smells like beer happily fermenting away, so I consider it a success! :champ:

Post #2 made 14 years ago
Nice going and congrats on your first BIAB Mikale,onwards and upwards from here.I wouldn't worry to much for now about you boil.Next time maybe take it into account when you plan your day and give the boil an extra 30 min or more. Adjust your hop additions accordingly.Even if it tastes just a little like beer it will be a good first effort.Brew on!
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Post #3 made 14 years ago
Well done Mikale, as Lylo said, don't bother yourself too much it will still be beer :)

Sounds like you did pretty well -2 OG points but +2 litres of beer.

I hope it's a ripper.
"It's beer Jim, but not as we know it."

Post #4 made 14 years ago
Well Done Mikale, nice to see it went ok.

It can be a PITA using a domestic hob. I did it for a couple of brews but now brew on gas outside.

Next time try floating a food safe bowl on top of the wort when boiling like in the picture.
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It reduces the surface area and helps get you up to a good roll.

:salute:

Yeasty
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Post #5 made 14 years ago
For those of us in the States that speak the other kind of English....."hob" = stove, correct?

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Post #6 made 14 years ago
From wikipedia

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Modern kitchen stoves have both burners on the top (also known in American English as the cooktop or range and, in British English, the hob) and, as noted, an oven. A cooktop just has burners on the top and is usually installed into a countertop. A drop-in range has both burners on the top and an oven and hangs from a cutout in the countertop (that is, it cannot be installed free-standing on its own).
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Post #7 made 14 years ago
Congratulations mikale :thumbs:

It sounds like everything went really well except for the boil bit :evil:. Your gravity being within a few points of the estimated is fine and normal. Unless we all used exactly the same grains and equipment and brewed in the same atmospheric conditions, we should never expect to be anything more than within a few points and you certainly won't taste a difference.

Yeasty's pics and explanation do a great job in showing how you can help to improve the boil vigour problem. I would use a bigger bowl than he has pictured seeing as your hob / stovetop ( :lol: ) is struggling so much. Also maybe consider brewing a bit less volume until you can acquire a stronger heat source. (Consider some of the maxi-BIAB methods.)

Great to hear you enjoyed it and I think you can be confident in the end result.

:salute:
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Post #8 made 14 years ago
Since I started using a 500W BBQ igniter in the pot I get an excellent boil on my induction stove. Just make sure you connect it via a RCD (as google taught me its called, direct translated from Swedish it would be "earth error circuit breaker").
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Post #9 made 14 years ago
That's an interesting looking bit of gear mankang. Never heard of anything like it before. Pretty cheap to at 15 US dollars / 11 Euros :peace:.
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Post #10 made 14 years ago
I think it is what we used to have here for starting bbq bricquets.Just a calrod like you find inside your electric oven/hob with a handle on 1 end.
I am a little concerned. :dunno: I don't believe they are meant to be submerged.
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Post #11 made 14 years ago
We can quite easily get handheld/over-the-side 2400W immersion heaters in Australia

http://www.beerbelly.com.au/burners.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Fermenting: -
Cubed: -
Stirplate: -
On Tap: NS Summer Ale III (WY1272), Landlord III (WY1469), Fighter's 70/- II (WY1272), Roast Porter (WY1028), Cider, Soda
Next: Munich Helles III

5/7/12

Post #12 made 14 years ago
Thanks for all the replies guys!

I will definitely try the bowl trick next time.
I may also look into getting a gas burner so I can do it out in the shed. Anyone in the UK got any idea of price or suggestions on what exactly to look for?

The beer is looking and smelling lovely! Do I basically treat it just like I would a kit beer now? Ferment for 1-2 weeks, then bottle?

Post #13 made 14 years ago
Hi Mikale

I've got a spiral burner like this one found on top of page 10 part number BRINGL HERE. These are the cheapest supplier I've found.
It does the job, they will supply it complete with a hose and regulator kit. The regulator is only a LP one, alot of guys have upgraded to an adjustable HP reg (0-2bar). I think they will supply what you ask for so give them a ring. The are trade only just tell them you are a self employed roofer and they'll sell you one no problem.

:peace:

Yeasty

PS here's a Linky to a thread I started about this burner,
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Post #14 made 14 years ago
I think in the UK you want to look for "boiling rings"
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On Tap: NS Summer Ale III (WY1272), Landlord III (WY1469), Fighter's 70/- II (WY1272), Roast Porter (WY1028), Cider, Soda
Next: Munich Helles III

5/7/12

Post #15 made 14 years ago
BRINGL looks perfect.

These spiral burners are known as "Italian Spirals" in Australia. They come in 5 jet per spur and 7 jet. The good thing is according to the picture BRINGL is 7 jet.

I wish mine had piezo ignition :)
Fermenting: -
Cubed: -
Stirplate: -
On Tap: NS Summer Ale III (WY1272), Landlord III (WY1469), Fighter's 70/- II (WY1272), Roast Porter (WY1028), Cider, Soda
Next: Munich Helles III

5/7/12
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