Gas-Fired BIAB

1. Italian spiral Burner

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   First post by samuls35, 15 years ago

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   Hi as in my last thread Burner for 50l pot . I went with the Italian spiral Burner and tried to give it a test drive this weekend with a pot of water. Yes it did boil the the water quick but to just keep a rolling boil all i ended up with was a big black pot of soot . i tried every thing pressure up / down but could not get a nice clean flame. After boiling for 90 min the water was covered in soot ........ does any body have any advice to help stop this
   
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   Thank you PistolPatch and Hasie, I am thinking about equipment, at the moment I am a extract brewer with grains, and I want to take the next step, thanks for the information guys.
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2. "blueing" on borrom of pot

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   First post by alanem, 14 years ago

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   I have a pretty basic $20 BigW S/S boiler that I use to do my BIAB's in, I have been having trouble with a bad taste in my beer with no idea what it was. I was blaming the hops in it but then someone told me that if the bottom of the pot goes blue from overheating then that will cause a taint through the beer. Is this really true? Or is it just folklore?? (Mine has blue marks on the bottom,) If it is true is there a way out without spending $200+ for a heavy duty one from LBS? is there a...

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   alanem,if your are brewing to end up with 20 liters you are probable going to want at least a 40 liter kettle.
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3. Missing my numbers

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   First post by philipforget, 14 years ago

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   I did my first batch, and IPA (SNPA inspired) and ended up with an OG of 1.044. I figured my efficiency was just lower than expected for the recipe and that I started with too much water in the kettle (8.25 gallons in a 40qt stockpot).
   
   This weekend I decided to do a wheat beer and used a grain bill based on this recipe.
   
   I mashed at 154, mash out at 170, squeezed the hell out of the bag and boiled for an hour. I ended up with 6 gallons in the fermentor which is just right, but I only hit...

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   In regards to the thread topic - For me the last thing I did for myself was to calibrate my US keggle and my sight glass. I can measure the distance with a measuring tape and calculate the volume at any time and/or I have a black o-ring pre-set on my final volume when it's at the chilled temperature. I know that evaporation still takes place after knock-out and I allow for that and I use an IC. So I tend to get my final volume each and every time. This helped me the most to get my numbers. If...
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4. 5 gallon batches with Keggle and an IC?

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   First post by pnj, 14 years ago

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   Howdy.
   
   I'm trying to figure out how to use my keggle to do biab. I do 5 gallon batches (carboys are 5 gallons so really closer to 4.80 ish)
   
   I'd like to make something like the link below but I'll be using propane and won't have re circulation. But I'd like to use a strainer and line it w/ my grain bag, like many others do. The idea is, I can drain directly into my kettle....
   
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   Will I have enough water in the keggle to cover my grains? I pretty...

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   I'm making 5 gallon batches in my keggle. With the full water and grains in during the mash the level comes to the middle welded seam (1/2 the capacity). Every works for me. Check out my photos and see if you have any follow-up questions with us.
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5. The Boil

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   First post by lambert, 14 years ago

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   After a run of 16 very nice brews I ran into the first situation where I had to dump 60 litres (3 batches) of beer down the drain. It hurts.
   I think its all down to my new equipment and specifically to the fact that I'm not getting a decent rolling boil. Both the brews were done on a recently purchased 70L stainless steel pot (45cm x 45cm) and a 8.8kW gas ring . I've done the 3 failed brews and after that, 2 test run boils, on the setup but I cannot seem to get a rolling boil going. Some...

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   I use this one
   
   Let us know how the HP reg goes
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   14 years ago
6. BIAB Maiden Voyage finally!

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   First post by Ziggybrew, 14 years ago

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   Thanks for the help from everyone these past months. Our first BIAB was a success last night. (so far) Everything went smooth until after mashout! Even BeerSmith 2 was dead on. I didn't trust the strike water temp so I added a 3 degrees. and guess what? My mash was 3 degrees high. Shoulda listened to BS2. The burner legs cooled enough to wrap the kettle in a sleeping bag without melting any nylon. There was NO change in temp during the mash. Mashout went as planned to. The pulley system worked...

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   The ambient temperature was just too dang cold for my banjo burner too get any useful evaporation data. We were almost getting 2 gallons an hour until the sun moved behind the roof. Then it was 1/4 to 1/3 gallon per hour. All time on fire was probably 6 hours or more due to temperatures between 15F/-9.4C and 23F/-5C(in sunshine).
   
   This was an altered New Castle clone recipe shooting for 10 gallons:
   18#/8165g of UK 2-row
   3#/1360g Flaked Maize
   1.5#/680g 60L Chrystal
   .75#/340g Chocolate Malt...
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7. My new BIAB pot

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   First post by Aces high, 14 years ago

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   I found this for sale recently, well about 3 months ago actually. It was put up for sale as a crab cooker.
   
   Its 25 UK gallons according to the label (114L) and is about 50 years old. Everything looked great and I picked up for just $90, only to find that they had resealed the bottom edges with lead based soft solder. I'd hate to think how many crabs they boiled in this lead filled water. After a bit of hunting I found a guy at my local pub who was a welder and happy to do it at work for a case...

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   Sounds excellent Aces :party:.
   
   Hopefully early new year is good for you but will send you a PM.
   
   Thanks a heap!
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8. Hot Water Gas Heater burners (might only be a US thing)

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   First post by zap_1961, 14 years ago

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   Besides the changing the orifice from Natural gas to Propane, is there any reason no one mentions using these plentiful burners? The are basically free, and can heat 30 to 50 gallons of water by design :think: ...

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   Joshua, you are correct about the single tube up the center. It's main purpose (IMO) is to exhaust the CO2 and residue heat up and out to a safe place. But it will indeed have an affect on heating the water. I saw the mention of many tubes and just wanted to clarify that I was talking about hot water heater for faucet use and not a how water heater for heating..... Some would say if I just set the pot out in the sun during our summer months there would be not need for an external heat source of...
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9. Gas fired BIAB variation instruction video

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   First post by jestersdarts, 15 years ago

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   G'Day -
   
   I have made a short video outlining the steps involved in my BIAB setup -
   I think it would be useful for someone who is trying to get their head around brewing all grain beer, and also the basics of the BIAB technique although, unlike pure BIAB, I am using two vessells.
   
   I hope its of use to brewers, it's the first video I've made, I had fun making it!
   
   Cheers -
   
   Jack

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   Great video, for someone looking to start out BIAB brewing you make it look very straightforward.
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10. My briab setup

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    First post by Txredrum, 15 years ago

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    Yo from Texas and remember the Alamo! This is my 15 gallon sanke keg with an extra low density hot water heating element controlled by a Johnson Controller with sensor probe. I've been using thermal paste in my thermowell because my probe doesn't go all the way to the end (should have ebay'd a shorter thermowell). I actually pieced this rig together after much research, mostly from this site. This is my introduction to AG brewing since I've peaked in my extract ventures. My first brew was a...

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    I'm leaving behind about 1 liter of kettle trub because i go straight from my reverse flow wort chiller into a 100 micron bucket screen. I gently work the wort through with my ladle. I find this alleviates the necessity of leaving a bunch of precious wort behind and aerates for yeast addition. I then violently pour the wort back and forth between 2 buckets until frothy, pour into my fermenter, add yeast and a few drops of s-foam inhibitor in an attempt to contain blowouts. I've been finding...
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11. Some pics of my rig

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    First post by rocket58, 16 years ago

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    Here a few pics of my system,The kettle is a converted keg with a tap inserted into the bulkhead.
    The bag was made by good old mum from Swiss voile,brought from our Spotlight stores and lines the entire inside,and have a wire cakestand in the bottom to prevent the bag from burning
    The bag is being lifted by a couple of Awning pulleys with awning rope all connected to my beam on my garage door

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    I posted the other day in the newbie corner BIAB for New Members bragging on my first BIAB, thought I'd better post here too because my pics are in my signature. Comments are always welcome.
    
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12. My 1st BIAB!

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    First post by opalko, 15 years ago

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    Well I've been brewing all grain for a while (10 years!) with a 3 tier system and I have just been fascinated with this BIAB technique. I am a firm believer in simpler is better and couldn't wait to try it.
    
    I seem to have read so much on BIAB that I didn't retain a bit of it and just decided to plow through it with my own experimentation! So yesterday I decided to establish a baseline of how well this will work. My recipe for an english bitter:
    
    5 lbs 2 Row Malt
    1 lbs 40 Crystal
    8 oz corn...

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    Well done opalko and welcome to the world of BIAB. Looks like you've got yourself a nice session beer there. :drink: :drink:
    
    From the look of your photo you live about half way between the uk and Aus' :lol:
    
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13. Burner Options- So Many

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    First post by DABEER, 15 years ago

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    Noob Question for you experienced BIAB'ers. The more I read about the Burner options that are out there and being used by everyone, I am beginning to wonder if my Turkey Fryer Burner is capable enough for doing BIAB Brews in my Keggle (15.5 Gallon). I see talk about Italian, 3 Ring, 4 Ring, High Pressure, etc... Does anyone out there use a Turkey Fryer and a Keggle? If so, do you find it to be adequate for BIAB with a Keggle?
    
    Thanks for any info you can offer. :scratch:

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    Thanks for the input Wizard. I feel a bit better about my Turkey fryer now. I will have to take a look and see if it is a High Pressure Reg. or a Standard. I suspect it's a Standard Pressure due to the fact it came with the Turkey Fryer. Cheers :drink:
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14. Burner for 50l pot

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    First post by samuls35, 15 years ago

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    Just been looking around for a burner for a 50l pot. My local hardware only has a 3 ring burner, looks a bit small for the pot, dont want to waste money on some that wont work . Can someone recommend a good burner or will that one do the job. I dont want over kill just something the right size .. thanks

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    The real beauty with the Italian Spiral is it pumps out the heat, but doesn't wake the neighbours :)
    
    In fact, the only sound you hear is it sucking in air through its venturi
    
    Its seems to be quite efficient too
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15. Heat Proof Burner Bases

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    First post by stux, 15 years ago

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    So,
    
    When you use a gas burner, and you crank it up, it produces some heat that is directed down, into whatever its sitting on,
    
    What should you use to make the heat shield?
    
    Fibreboard?
    
    I'm thinking of building up a base with besa blocks, then a concrete-board type sheet, then some clinker bricks or something else on top of that...
    
    I used to use a large cast iron hotplate, but aside from the greasy black issue, which is a no no for beer, the poor wooden bench that this was placed on, now has...

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    The ones I bought where/are actual sandstone.
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16. Double Batch Concentrated BIAB

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    First post by stux, 15 years ago

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    Double Keg BIAB (38L) with 2x15L No-Chill (FWK style) cubes and a 50L pot
    
    An Australia Day Experiment ;)
    
    My goal is do a double batch brew where I use one 15L Cube for each batch, I will then dilute the 15L to 20L in the fermenter, which my experience shows gives me a good 18-19L in the Keg.
    
    I do have a 23L Willow cube, but I have lots of wort kit cubes... so I guess, my goal is to make 2 Full Wort Kits with a 50L pot :)
    
    I am thinking about doing PP's Munich Helles, or perhaps Krispy Kolch...

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    So, I reckon buy two 1.0mm bits and two 1.5mm bits and/or a whole drill set. Whatever decision you make, you should be very confident that, financially at least, certainly practically, in the long-term, your purchase decision will be wrong :lol:.
    
    Just finished poking my 2 ring burner, turns out it has 2.5mm holes.
    :lol: :lol: :lol:
    
    Glad to hear poking the holes worked. Am now following your link above even though there is far less comedy there :).
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17. Two If By Sea Brewing's BIAB Rig

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    First post by Two If By Sea, 15 years ago

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    My bag material, Voile curtain material that I sewed up myself. $10 got me enough material for 2 bags.
    
    My bag in the kettle. Office binder clips hold the bag in place and allows me to put the lid on still.
    
    The canning rack in the bottom to hold the bag off the kettle.
    
    The whole rig
    
    My rig during the mash, Patriotic, no?
    
    My pulley system. They told me in the other forums that 11# of wet grain would be too much...nope. I've done 23# in my bag just using my back and arms. I won't say it...

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    Well, most of the beers behind the labels are long gone. *burp*
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18. Kettle Trolleys

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    First post by stux, 15 years ago

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    I was looking at various burners on onclick= window.open(this.href);return false; and I found this
    
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    Model: MTR18
    Description: Trolley for all 1 wok burner cooker models(cooker sold separately)
    Dimensions: 1040mm x 470mm x 820mm
    
    They have Rambo, Mongolian, Duckbill, NASA etc burners... and the regulators

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    Did you see the commercial stock pot boilers :)
    
    For 70-100L pots :)
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19. 3-ring burner for 20 L boils?

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    First post by AaronP, 16 years ago

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    I may be able to get my hands on a cheap 3 ring burner. Will it be grunty enough for doing a full size (20-23L) BIAB?

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    Thanks all. Sounds like it should do the job :D
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