Overshot my mash temp.

Post #1 made 11 years ago
Hi guys,

I had a desired mash temp of 66.7C, after adding the grain the temp was about 63C, so I put the heat on but overshot the Mark, with the temp hitting approx 71.1C (shit).. So I stirred with the lid off to try and reduce the temp quickly, it dropped pretty quickly down to about 68C and at approx 67.7C I decided to cut my losses, put the lid on and started the 90min timer.

I haven't been getting into the beer-science much, so... Have I stuffed my brew? From what I understand I might not get all the fermentables from the grain now?!?

Hopefully it will still be drinkable, I'm about to put 140g of hops into this bad boy starting from 90 minutes time, if I should ditch it instead, please let me know!

Thanks guys. :salute:
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Post #2 made 11 years ago
Nicko, it takes some time to kill off the Beta Amylase, but you have a lot of Alpha Amylase to work with.

In other words, you beer will be a bit low ABV, but, have a good Body, and Good Head.

It may not meet the style you want, But, should be a Great Brew!!
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Post #3 made 11 years ago
joshua wrote:Nicko, it takes some time to kill off the Beta Amylase, but you have a lot of Alpha Amylase to work with.

In other words, you beer will be a bit low ABV, but, have a good Body, and Good Head.

It may not meet the style you want, But, should be a Great Brew!!
Awesome, thanks mate!
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Post #4 made 11 years ago
Nicko, be wary of single thermometer readings. In my experience the mash can have pockets of varying temperatures. Stir the sh1t out if it a d add heat very cautiously. If you used a half decent strike water temp calculator you can't be far off the mark

Post #5 made 11 years ago
Nicko, tag the brew somehow and give us some feedback on how it tastes. Also tag this thread so you can find it easier.
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Post #6 made 11 years ago
Lars wrote:Nicko, be wary of single thermometer readings. In my experience the mash can have pockets of varying temperatures. Stir the sh1t out if it a d add heat very cautiously. If you used a half decent strike water temp calculator you can't be far off the mark
I used a paint mixer after watching Beachbum use one, so agitated the shit out of it for sure!

Will do Jhough, I'm keen to see how it tastes and will post the after fermentation gravity reading too. Hopefully it was really around 70C and everything turns out splendidly!
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Post #7 made 11 years ago
Very Very belated reply to this sorry
I had a Munich Dunkel stop at 1.030 tried all the usual then found out my temps were out.
Got a Lo-carb Enzyme (Amyloglucosidase)phial from a NZ brewshop amd in 2 weeks it went down to 1.000 then I lagered it for 4 weeks then bottled as normal
Hoping it turns out ok will be at least another 3 to 4 months till I try it .. I'm an Ale man and have no idea what it's supposed to taste like anyway its has gone way past it's expected 1.010 FG.
Might be interesting ...
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Post #8 made 11 years ago
tingtong wrote:Very Very belated reply to this sorry
I had a Munich Dunkel stop at 1.030 tried all the usual then found out my temps were out.
Got a Lo-carb Enzyme (Amyloglucosidase)phial from a NZ brewshop amd in 2 weeks it went down to 1.000 then I lagered it for 4 weeks then bottled as normal
Hoping it turns out ok will be at least another 3 to 4 months till I try it .. I'm an Ale man and have no idea what it's supposed to taste like anyway its has gone way past it's expected 1.010 FG.
Might be interesting ...
TT

Let us know!
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Post #10 made 11 years ago
I have used that stuff once (pilsner enzyme), but never again.
I will be interested to see if yours does better, as it may have just been an isolated case.
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Post #11 made 11 years ago
Just a bit of a follow up on this one.
In the middle of a brew tonight thought i'd taste the Munich Dunkel fantastic colour no lasting head very alcoholic tasting reminds me of a winter warmer not unpleasant.
It's only been in the bottle nearly 2 months think i will give it another 2.
originally supposed to have been 5.4% ABV now 7%ABV.
No idea what is supposed to taste like notice Wigram do a Munich Dunker over here, might give that a go for a taste test.
I've got it mainly in 750ml bottles which could be entertaining certainly not a session beer.
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Post #12 made 11 years ago
Ting, WOW. That was a huge jump. What were the readings during your brew day? Seems like something was a bit off in the beginning . Not that a Dunkel is bad at that ABV. Another 2 months should smooth it out and be a nice brew.
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Post #13 made 11 years ago
jhough wrote:Ting, WOW. That was a huge jump. What were the readings during your brew day? Seems like something was a bit off in the beginning . Not that a Dunkel is bad at that ABV. Another 2 months should smooth it out and be a nice brew.
I'm hoping your right,it was quite drinkable just wish i had used the 500ml bottles
I didn't fill all the Biabacus in, my gravity into boil was supposed to have been 1.045 and was 1.038 , I might have the gravity of the ambient wort in my notebook.
The fermentation stopped at 1.030 after trying upping the temp repitching shaking etc nothing . fired in the Lo-carb Enzyme (Amyloglucosidase) and it took off like a rocket quite scary really, made doubly sure it had finished before I put it anywhere near a bottle LOL.
When i tested the thermometer it was reading 10C on the low side and i had got into the bad habit of turning the urn back on if I saw the temps drop too much and also when i first started biabing it was in winter... when I did this it was just getting into summer and being outside in my pole barn workshop this also made a difference I believe.
Should also of agitated the mash when applying heat as it was a lot warmer than i thought.
But at the end of the day its still very drinkable and should add to the selection.
Now i get to strike temp stir the grain in and then cover it give it another stir halfway through and all seems good.
I seem to be getting a good stock in now, bottled 3 21 litre batches last week.
and one in the fermenter well on the way to being self sufficent in beer.

Edit just checked notes gravity of ambient wort was 1.050 also used a 1.25 litre starter
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Post #14 made 11 years ago
My brew turned out great, I was lucky I guess. I just gave the last two bottles away, a brew club member really liked this brew, first 'lovely' I've ever gotten from a brewer :thumbs:

A non-brewer friend who really likes beer says it was one of the nicest beers he's ever had. I think from now on I'll really try to leave brews for six weeks before touching them, that seems to be the sweet spot with this pale ale. Not that they are terrible after a couple of weeks!

I'll watch the temp closely next brew though, don't want the foreboding cloud of uncertainty next time!!
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Post #15 made 11 years ago
Great follow up post good to hear all not lost sounds like it could be an epic beer.
Think we all might like a wee taster Lol
Well done
Regards
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Post #16 made 10 years ago
nicko , Tingtong , sorry chaps , been away for a bit.

nicko, sorry , there is no such thing as you got lucky on brewing ... It's hard work and dedication to your craft . :pray: :pray: :pray: May the beer gods not strike down my next brew as I am teaching ! :lol: :lol: Just remember ... GREAT NOTES helps to cure many brewing ills . Make sure to post your Biabacus file so we can help out. Actually I would like to see it.

Tingtong....glad to hear it mellowed a bit. Keep refining your process . See above , GREAT NOTES help to fix many problems. Post your Biabacus file so we can see . Your temps are very important, but , don't completely stress over them . If you overshoot by a degree or two it isn't the end of the world. I live in Central Florida , USA .... We only have 2 seasons .... Hot and HELL ! Sometimes I have a hard time not overshooting mash temps.
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Post #17 made 10 years ago
Here is my biabacus file please don't waste any time on it as i am at least seven brews down the road from this.
my final fg after adding Amyloglucosidase was 1.000 ish this pretty much saved the brew won't win too many awards but very drinkable .
All the gear came from lhbs and no i didn't weigh anything supplied.
Putting this down as a one off the radar
TT
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Post #18 made 10 years ago
TT, WHOA
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, A very tight Mash!!!! 200 ml of Head space volume
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!!!
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Post #19 made 10 years ago
When I first started I didn't know any different :blush:
I've just carried on the tradition, pictured is my Green Bullet Pale mash with 900ml of headspace :)
Just gone into boil with tonights brew (Jamils Extra Yellow) and that had a whopping 700ml :!:
Always found Biabacus to be spot on with limits
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