First AG and first BIAB with BIABicus. Success! With pics

Post #1 made 12 years ago
WARNING. The following post contains a lot of rambling from a noob. Its my first brew post so I think Ill ramble as much as I want ;)

First I'd like to say thanks to the creators of this site and the BIABicus and also to its members for all the work and time that has gone in to making such a great rescource. I stumbled through sites thinking it would take forever to afford a 3V system. If my beer turns out ok then Id have to say BIAB is very easy and way cheaper to build than 3v.

I started extract back in October so Ive been making beer for a relatively short time, but it feels like Ive been building this BIAB rig FOREVER!

So I finally did my first brew last Sunday. I have a 70lt SS pot that I got from Ebay for $135. It turns out to be a 65lt pot but I dont care I can still make a lot of beer in it. It has a 45 outer diameter but a 43 inner. I also got a 5500w hot water element like the ones on the Electric Brewery site. I made the decision to get it after I saw a video on YT that used a dimmer/potentiometer rated at 9500w. I got one of these of Ebay for $18 dollars I think. So the bare basics all up cost me about a bit over $200. Luckily I have a mate who is an electrician who installed a 20a power point in my garage for $0. If I had to pay for it would have cost well over $1000 I reckon. I sold a guitar to the same electrician mate for $350 so if I had of stopped spending there Id be making money :argh:

The good thing about it taking so long to build is that I got time to read up on brewing. The bad thing was that it gave me time to blow money on crap that I probably did'nt need. But I would have bought them any way in the long run so no probs :roll: . Hiding the purchases from the wife is the hard part :whistle: In the end the bit that took the longest was getting my mate to put in the power point and getting my mum to make the bag.

I went to a few demo's at the G&G ( they do BIAB demos too) and they recommended Brewing classic Styles which I read (along with How to Brew). Then I got BeerSmith 2 which I liked because of the drop down ingredients menus, good for learning. Then I found BIABrewer site. Got the BIABicus, didnt like it because it didnt have grains and hops menu's but kept reading up on the site. Then I put BCS recipes into BeerSmith and discovered that I couldnt actually buy alot of the grains listed in BeerSmith to make a recipe :shock: . Then in conjunction with BS2 (and extra downloaded grain company listings) I went back and sussed out BIABicus. On first look BIABicus actually looked pretty easy, it was only the grain bill part that put me off coz I didnt have a clue about grains. Moving on.

I made NRB's APA. I figured one hop would be a good starter for learning. I might try it with different hops. So everything went pretty well. The hardest bit I found was waiting.Too much time to get pissed. I mashed at 66c for 90min. It stayed steady for 30. It dropped to 65 so I left it a bit more and then gave a good stir. Then it dropped to 59 while stirring so I turned on the heat and stirred like mad. Got it back up to 66 and it stayed there for the rest of the mash. I used a pizza screen propped up with 3 100mm bolts to keep the bag off the element. It worked really well but its a bit weak so I might get some SS mesh as in Wolfys 3v Build.

I went No Chill because I got 4 20lt (23lt?) cubes off Gumtree for $25. 4 cubes that will let me have 4 brews ready to go any time OR I could buy/make a chiller for $100+ that would make my brew day longer. No brainer really. I didnt change my hop timing for the first brew. Maybe another time.

The only thing out of the ordinary was that end of boil volume was about 3 litres under (maybe to much vigour in the boil. The 5500 element is a beast!). My gravity into kettle was spot on at 1.042. When I tested my OG today it was 1.058 which is spot on for end of boil gravity but I only put in 18lt to the fermenter after trub loss. It was 15c ambient in my garage which could have been abit to do with it. A bit weird but no probs. I added extra water to bring it up to 23lt and pitched 2 packs of hydrated us-05 in tonight at 15c :shock: Never used it this cold before. The fermentis site says it can go as low as 12c so should be good. Should make for a very dry beer.

My pre wet test took 3 1/2 hours. Brew day took over 6 so obviosly I have to work on my process.

Questions I have,

Any tips on whirlpooling,

How much whirlflock should I use for 23/20lt batch. 1/2 tab or 1?

What the best way to transfer from the cube to fermenter? Racking cane or just tip it in like I did tonight?

What beer do I make next? Too many to choose from. With winter coming on I might go for a stout or a porter. I hear their easier to make.

Here's some pics.
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Last edited by nosco on 10 Jul 2014, 22:34, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #2 made 12 years ago
More pics!
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Post #3 made 12 years ago
And finally the truncated bag inspired by Bob Brews. See the truncated bag post for details.

While Im at it I also used a refractometer and a digital thermometer used with a floating bowl in the mash.
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
WOW! Great write up and pics. You've got a pretty sweet set up happening there. Gotta go now so I can clean all the drool off of my desk.
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Post #6 made 12 years ago
Man, you really jumped in with both feet!!! Nice builds and looks like you got some great bargains too. Always nice. Congrats on your brew day. BCS has some really good recipes and they translate well to the BIABacus. I have only made the sweet stout (triple-x) and the Chocolate hazelnut porter (as far as darker beers are concerned) from BCS. The sweet stout turned out well but I screwed the pooch on the porter. I wasn't watching my mash temps at all and they dropped to 139 F. The beer wasn't very good at all. Not the recipes fault though. Good luck with your next batch. Also, Pistol Patch posted that when using the BCS recipes make sure to enter 20.19L on the first line in section D otherwise your hop additions will come out too weak. Forgot where he posted that but you can search for it pretty easy on here.

Post #7 made 12 years ago
Thanks all. I have been collecting all the parts gradually over the last 6 months. I got the bigger pot so I wouldnt have to upgrade again but getting ahead of myself as usual. It will be a long time before I do a double batch.
I have seen the post about adjusting the hops for BCS thanks monkey. I like sound of a sweet stout as ive never tried one but I think I am leaning towards an ESB. I have friday off work so ill make an order tomorrow night and brew on Friday. Im in full production mode now :D

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Post #8 made 12 years ago
I just remembered another thing that probably caused my after boil volume being 3lt under is that I started my 90 min boil time when the water actually started to boil. I should started when the hot break started. I wasnt sure cause the hot break started waaaay before the water even started to move. Ill learn qith experience.

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Post #9 made 12 years ago
I don't start my boil timer until the wort is actually boiling. I might be doing it wrong though. BIABacus usually gets my evaporation pretty close though. I also squeeze the snot out of the bag, so that could account for the difference.
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Post #10 made 12 years ago
Read this thread earlier today and have been wanting to reply ever since. What a great thread. And lol nosco. Wish I had time to quote all the things that made me laugh.

:thumbs: on your first one. So pleased you took the time to tell us about it.

Your great posts above warrant a serious (and new) reply of some sort...

I haven't seen the actuals on your brew but feel free to post them up here. Your boil starts when it starts boiling so Jack is right. I think that your boil, and it is the first time I have ever written this, was over-active.

Let's categorise the boils...

Simmer: Bad
Rolling: Good
Leaping: Over the top.

Yours looked as though it could be leaping ;).

And remember, never trust the numbers on one brew!!!

Congratulations again!
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Post #11 made 12 years ago
Thanks Pat. Probably not worth posting my recipe details until I learn to take better notes. Ill try not to drink to much during my next brew :nup:

One thing I would like to maybe see (unless Im missing something) is to be able to print out sections like L,M and N so I can take them into the garage and fill them in as I go and them fill them in on my PC later. I guess I could figure out how to unlock the cells and select them but I hav'nt looked at it yet.

Just finished wiring a heat belt into the ferm fridge to bump the temp up (another first) to 16. Ill slowly bring it up to 18 over the next few days and then leave it there for rest of the 2 weeks. Fingers crossed it will be tasty.

I dont quite trust the heat belt, they get toO hot, so I have a reptile heat pad coming on friday that Ill swap over. I have wired RCA plugs into the cables so I just have to wire one on to the heat pad and done.

Going to convert the "im not bitter, Im thirsty" recipe (special bitter) from BCS tonight. Then order my grains tomorrow night and brew on Friday.
Would Maris Otter be considered a Brittish pale ale malt? Other wise Ill just go with Joe White pale ale.

Cheers.
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Post #13 made 12 years ago
Thanks Monkey! Ill go with that. I think learning about grains is going to be the hardest part of AG brewing :think:

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Post #14 made 12 years ago
Just got a message fromm PP confirming your advice monkey. Its better quality. Ill get some Simpsons maris otter. Its the only one lhbs has.

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