Hi PP,
Yesterday afternoon you had Aces High around for a beer and you taught him how to use BIABacus. He became an expert in a short period of time.
I can’t come around for an afternoon beer; there is a small issue of you being geographically light years away.
I wonder if I could ask you to take me through the process, one simple dummy sized step at a time. I’ll ask a question every day or two, and hopefully others will follow along and ask questions.
Could we do it slowly, so that after a period of a few weeks we gradually become experts? Please try not to do it for us and send a filled in BIABacus. I learn better when I stumble through and ask questions when I get stuck. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day... teach a man to fish etc. etc. It may be useful though to send examples.
I want to design a beer. It’s a simple single malt and single hop brew. We can get more complicated as we become experts. If someone has other objectives, like scaling or modifying a recipe please chip in. Each question can be answered to suit everyone’s needs and if we are to become experts; we need to learn all of the program's potential.
We shouldn’t move on to the next question until everyone is comfortable and has their questions answered.
A lot of my questions will be stupid as I am a dummy at the moment. But with your help (if you will help) I would like to become an expert in a few weeks.
To kick things off: Please would you provide a link to download the latest blank version of BIABacus, and what are the first few boxes to fill in?
Thanks!
(Ps. I didn’t know where to put this. Mods please move it if necessary. Should there be a BIABacus section?)
Post #2 made 13 years ago
Sorry PP if I'm jumping in 
Hi GR
The Biabacus can be found Here
There is going to be a forum dedicated to the Biabacus Here which will act as a guide however this is work in progress.
In the mean time I would suggest downloading both copies and have a look and a play around. I would then look for a suitable recipe or ask here for suggestions and then give it a go and post your file Here Once you can convert a recipe and recognise what to look for in a good convertible recipe you can move on to tweaking and recipe design proper.
I think you will find it is as easy as ABC, literally ! just follow the sections A to Z. You probably won't need to put something in every section and it really is self explanatory. If you get stuck just ask.
What ever you do just hurry up
as when the Biabacus is released properly we are going to need all the guys we can get who can convert a recipe and help out everyone else 
Yeasty
Hi GR
The Biabacus can be found Here
There is going to be a forum dedicated to the Biabacus Here which will act as a guide however this is work in progress.
In the mean time I would suggest downloading both copies and have a look and a play around. I would then look for a suitable recipe or ask here for suggestions and then give it a go and post your file Here Once you can convert a recipe and recognise what to look for in a good convertible recipe you can move on to tweaking and recipe design proper.
I think you will find it is as easy as ABC, literally ! just follow the sections A to Z. You probably won't need to put something in every section and it really is self explanatory. If you get stuck just ask.
What ever you do just hurry up
as when the Biabacus is released properly we are going to need all the guys we can get who can convert a recipe and help out everyone else Yeasty
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Why is everyone talking about "Cheese"
Post #3 made 13 years ago
Thanks Yeasty, (very much). I'll look at that later (bit hectic at work here). It looks like PP's gone to bed down under 
...but isn't it better to teach a man to fish than give him a fish? That way he can stay out of the fish and chip shopsYeasty wrote: What ever you do just hurry up
Yeasty
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Guinges
Post #4 made 13 years ago
Downloaded it from Yeasty's link above.
What to fill in first? Sections A and B I guess. Do all the sunken boxes in section A and B have to be filled in? How do I decide on VIF. I want to make 5 gallons of the end product. What about boil time? presumably that needs to be filled in. I'm going to put in 60 minutes.
This program is for All-Grain only?
What to fill in first? Sections A and B I guess. Do all the sunken boxes in section A and B have to be filled in? How do I decide on VIF. I want to make 5 gallons of the end product. What about boil time? presumably that needs to be filled in. I'm going to put in 60 minutes. This program is for All-Grain only?
Guinges
Post #5 made 13 years ago
Fill out A and B with your info.Leave the boil time blank. For VIF just pick a reasonable volume.
Now move to C and insert your recipe OG and see what happens.
Look in section K at the VIP at the bottom, change your VIF and see what happens. Can you get VIP to your required volume ? What's your final VIF figure ?
Now add a boil time of 90. See what happens, change this to 60 can you see the changes.
Have a play.
Yeasty
Now move to C and insert your recipe OG and see what happens.
Look in section K at the VIP at the bottom, change your VIF and see what happens. Can you get VIP to your required volume ? What's your final VIF figure ?
Now add a boil time of 90. See what happens, change this to 60 can you see the changes.
Have a play.
Yeasty
Why is everyone talking about "Cheese"
Post #6 made 13 years ago
Thanks very much Yeasty, I'll try that this evening, and move on to the next section tomorrow, unless anyone else has any questions about A & B
Thanks again
Thanks again
Guinges
Post #7 made 13 years ago
This is what PP taught me...
Fill out this: and check section K and you get this: Pretty easy really
Fill out this: and check section K and you get this: Pretty easy really
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Post #8 made 13 years ago
GuingesRock wrote:I learn better when I stumble through and ask questions when I get stuck.
Thanks for the idea of this thread GuingesRock and please accept our apologies for closing it. There are many reasons for closing it but some of the main ones are as follows.Yeasty wrote:In the meantime I would suggest downloading both copies and have a look and a play around.
I think you will find it is as easy as ABC, literally!
1. The BIABacus has not been officially released yet and feedback, discussion, help and questions on it have been specifically limited to three threads as detailed in the main download thread. This saves us having to post up corrections and explanations in multiple threads.
2. The BIABacus has been designed to be best learned in the manner that Yeasty's quote above puts so well. You will find that following that advice will serve you much better and faster than this thread would. This thread would actually slow you down.
The BIABacus has also been designed to suit a very wide range of brewers. If this thread continued, it would become very messy the further it progressed as many parts of the BIABacus inter-act with each other. What you need from the BIABacus will be totally different from what another brewer needs from it. For example, many sections of the BIABacus should not be learned by new brewers. The design, which includes the help being written behind the scenes, is all about being able to find the right answers at the right level of brewing experience.
3. What you will not have realised is that you are actually asking us here to do what we are working to get done behind the scenes. It's important that those contributing to that focus on that very complex and time-consuming task. Those people are still here to help on forum but following Yeasty's advice and checking The BIABacus Pre-Release Temporary Help thread is the best way for now for you to save them time and speed up the main BIABacus release. We are extremely under-resourced here.
Once again, sorry for locking the thread. The idea of it was good and reasonable but I think you'll find that the design of the BIABacus and using the threads we already have available will allow you and anyone else to get under way very quickly and for the main, "holistic," release to be comleted as fast as possible.
Just set aside a little time with a beer and start exploring. Try and answer as many questions as you can on your own and post the ones you are still stuck with, preferably in the Use this thread to convert recipes to suit your equipment... thread.
and thanks in advance for your understanding GuingesRock,Nuff
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