Lylo, I am not THAT Fat guy on talk radio who is a Oxycodone Moron, I used it for 9 days and gave the last tab to a guy who loved it!

Oh, I AM a Fat guy who is Also a Moron, so I know what I say!!

BobBrews wrote:In my case I may have to relight?

Bob, you let your cigarette go out! How often do you have to relight? I think you just have small, occasional puffs, like you sip your drinks, so everyone thinks you are smoking up a storm.

Jeltz the smoking guy!

I think, in just two excellent posts you nailed it. You are the sharpshooter of all thread hijackers

I will quote you (thank you) and somewhere, somehow, someone will be helped by what you have said.

Jeltz, The non-smoking guy

Would you tell us about the psychological principals behind your method please? Do you reckon the same principals would apply to carbohydrate addiction? which was my other question in #14 above.

Thanks

GuingesRock,

Bob, you let your cigarette go out! How often do you have to relight? I think you just have small, occasional puffs, like you sip your drinks, so everyone thinks you are smoking up a storm.

I only smoked while I was in the Army. Since Vietnam I haven't smoked any (cigarets)? I do smoke a cigar on my father-in-laws birthday to honor the old cigar smoker. I always regret it because my beer tastes like tobacco! My beer doesn't need any other outside influences to make it taste bad I can do that on my own!

With eleven grand children I never would let them see me smoke even my one cigar a year. However I have them brew with me and bottle! I even had a seamstress make a boy scout merit badge with a glass of beer on it. The boy scouts didn't think it was a good idea? but I did!

Jeltz, stuck for time as always but very rarely do I see posts like yours. Anything I say will diminish their quality.

Beautifully written and very valuable for someone like me.

Many thanks (And to you as well GR etc for creating the conversation),
PP

Sorry Bob, I can’t help being naïve, I was born like that At least I had an inkling

I think Jeltz’s techniques could be used for many addictions and habits.

Does anyone have any advice on getting through the first week of giving up smoking? My friend (and brewing/drinking assistant) now has a week in. I think his wife should be over the worst now?

PP was ranting and raving on about his frustrations working with some brewing programs in a post he deleted yesterday (very interesting post). He said at the end of the post he hadn’t smoked all day (good on you PP). He didn’t have to say that he was giving up smoking, you could see it in almost every word he wrote

Having read the post, I understood a lot more about Biabacus and why and how it started and its advantages over other programs. A lot of people would have thrown in the towel and wined, so I think its bloody amazing PP decided instead to do something about it and work on Biabacus with such dedication.

I found when I gave up smoking that I was very calm and relaxed (after about two weeks), much more serene than when I smoked. When you smoke you are going through drug withdrawal anxiety about 20 – 30 times per day…whenever it is time to have another cigarette. Then you have a cigarette to get you over that, you feel instantly calm, so you tend to think you are naturally neurotic and need cigarettes to calm you down, but it’s the other way around. The cigarettes are the neurotic ones. It’s a bit like an opiate addict who can’t get any opiates…he’s lying on the floor in a pool of sweat until he gets some and then he feels great (for a while). The first week to 10 days of giving up anything can be hell.

Here's some stuff from my healthy living guide I wrote a few years ago. Let me know if anything is out-of-date, or if there is anything new out there:

Avoiding foods that contain flour (white and whole-wheat) or added sugar (natural sugar in fruit is fine) is a simple and effective way to lose weight and improve health. Doing this eliminates most high glycemic-index foods from the diet that cause weight gain. Harmful “junk foods” containing hydrogenated fats, are also eliminated since these foods often contain flour and/or sugar.


Many chronic illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis, high cholesterol and cancers are caused by carrying extra weight and not exercising.


To achieve a healthy weight and avoid or treat chronic illness: Be physically active. Eat small frequent meals throughout the day and include breakfast (this will keep your metabolism and energy levels up). Eat healthy “whole foods” such as vegetables, fruits (not fruit juice), unsalted nuts, oatmeal, beans, quinoa, eggs, avocadoes, low fat dairy foods, fish, and lean meats. Limit salt and alcohol. Avoid high glycemic-index foods containing sugar or flour, such as bread (white and whole wheat), cakes, pastry, commercial breakfast cereals, muffins, doughnuts, bagels, sweets, ice cream, pop etc. as these lead to rapid weight-gain and prevent weight loss. Watch portion sizes, perhaps use smaller plates (antique plates like your grandmother used to use) and don’t feel that you need to eat everything on your plate.


Always check ingredients and avoid hydrogenated and partially-hydrogenated fats. It is estimated that these man-made “trans-fats” are responsible for 25% of the heart disease in North America. Many fast food restaurants cook with them. Look for trans-fat free.


Limit saturated fats found in fatty cuts of meat, lard, shortening and high fat dairy products, as these increase LDL cholesterol that causes heart disease and strokes.


Many foods reduce LDL cholesterol by a few percentage points. Recent evidence has shown that combining these foods in a so called “Designer Diet” effectively lowers blood cholesterol as much as a low dose cholesterol pill. These foods are: Viscous fibre (found in oatmeal), fresh garlic, soy milk, almonds and plant sterols (present in nuts, beans, peas, lentils, vegetables, fruit, bran, oatmeal and plant sterol supplements).


Eat extra virgin olive and exercise, to increase your “good cholesterol” (HDL). HDL cholesterol reduces the effects of “bad cholesterol” (LDL).


Omega 3 fatty acids found in oily fish, wild salmon oil and flax seeds are very useful in the prevention and treatment of many common serious chronic health problems, including heart disease, strokes and arterial disease. 2g daily is the recommended amount. Salmon oil has been shown to help stabilize irregular heartbeats (arrhythmias) and 6g daily is often effective at reducing high triglyceride levels (Triglycerides are the other bad cholesterol). Avoid Omega 6 and 9 supplements – they cause inflammation in excess and our diets contain enough. Omega 3 is the beneficial one.


Enjoy life! Walk! Love! Sleep enough! Consider ways to reduce stress! Talk to your doctor if you smoke!


A can of pop has about thirteen teaspoons of sugar in it.


The first people to become overweight were the Ancient Egyptians who learned to grow wheat and make bread.


Most peanut butter is hydrogenated unless you buy the old fashioned kind with the oil that rises to the top and needs stirring.

Drinking beer can be healthy. Here’s a link on the health benefits of hops http://food-nutrition.knoji.com/health- ... s-of-hops/

Here is a nice link on the health benefits of beer http://kenanddot.wordpress.com/2012/11/ ... en-option/

Late hopping and dry hopping puts more of the healthy/anti-ageing properties of hops in your beer.

It might be possible to brew a “health kick” beer with enhanced health benefits and increased antioxidants. Adding blueberries to the boil for example would provide extra antioxidants. The antioxidants in blueberries are not destroyed by boiling http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19255889 I googled blueberry IPA and there are some commercially available ones.

Alcohol itself (in moderation) has health benefits. The cardiologists recommend a glass or two per day for cardiovascular protection (protection against heart disease, the #1 killer). The cancer people hate the cardiologists for touting that, as alcohol increases the risks of certain cancers. I’m wondering if we can make both the cardiologists and the oncologists happy by making a beer packed with cancer protecting anti-oxidants.

What happened to johnny_dove’s question? It was a good one about how to brew beers that are less likely to cause hangovers. Does anyone know? It wasn’t about making them with less alcohol. I think his friend said the commercial beer caused less hangover than home-brew?

We had friends staying with us last night, I did Bob’s sipping thing but the others had bad hangovers today from the IPA. If I brew Mally’s St. Austell brewery bitter, I think it might be worse than the IPA which has MO only. The bitter will have less hops, less alcohol but more speciality grains. The alcohol is a given, but how much do other ingredients contribute. What about fusel alcohols, esters, diacetyl, acetaldehyde. An understanding of this might lend to modifications in brewing methods and ingredients, including types of yeast used. Or perhaps just identifying which styles are less prone to cause hangovers.

Red wine cause more hangovers than champagne because of the histamines it contains. I think Brandy, another culprit, has a high fusel alcohol content.