Health Kicks & Hangover Hell-Pers

Post #1 made 12 years ago
Any suggestions apart from not drinking more than a few on a Friday night (how do you do that by the way?).

Did a quick search on here for hangover remedies, and I suspect there might be a few experts:
For a hobby I enjoy lying comatose from testing home-brew. When I wake up I test out hangover remedies. The next day I do it all over again! As an extra bit of hobby I am growing a beard. People have said that "The more he covers his face the better he looks"! I assume they meant they wanted me to grow a beard? I do love American football!
That's BB of course.

Edit: changed the title to add "Health Kicks"
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Post #2 made 12 years ago
I could do with something right now :headhit: Went out for a teatime pint at 4 oclock yesterday. Woke up on the sister in laws couch at 8 this morning :idiot: Feeling it now, :evil:
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Post #3 made 12 years ago
Good Day, Most people believe the hangover is from DeHydration, as your drinking did not have enough water to wash out the headache procucts. So Drink Water.

Some say the hangover is caused by loss of glucose and minerals, so have a GatorAid.

Or combine all the above and have a drink, that has minerals, vitamins, water, carbs, and prosessed glucose...

BEER, but, go lightly!
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Post #4 made 12 years ago
Drink plenty of water, even try adding a bit more salt to your body,
Also try Vitimun C, such as orange juice, Belive it or not, but a Mc D's McFlurry used to sort me out

Post #5 made 12 years ago
Hangover Cures (below) from around the word quoted from here: http://www.organicauthority.com/health/ ... world.html

We’re from “around the world” … we might be able to do better than this.

I’m from England originally and I find Marmite helps, I love it! as all English do. It’s a yeast extract, made as a by-product from the brewing industry (talk about hair of the dog). It is really high in B vitamins which are supposed to help hangovers. The English take it to Africa when they go there, as they find when they eat it, it helps to keep the mosquitos away.

So far we have GatorAid, McFlurry, and Marmite.

Mix them together in one drink and we might have a great hangover cure… The "BIABaCure"

What else to put in the mix?


• Drink oregano tea to sooth a hangover and settle your stomach in Ecuador.

• In Turkey the preferred hangover cure and preventative is to eat the lining of a cow’s stomach in the form of tripe soup. Boil the offal and combine with generous amounts of cream and garlic, then eat before and after your night on the town.

• Menudo is the hangover cure in Mexico, another form of tripe soup, served spicy with onions, garlic, chillies, oregano and cumin.

• To sooth a pounding head in Germany, eat a pickled herring wrapped around an onion or a pickle, aka rollmops. Bavarian pretzels and white sausage can also do the trick, all washed down with a fresh German beer, of course.

• In Poland they skip the pickle and go right to the source. Drink a glass of vinegary picklejuice or in a pinch, sip from the sauerkraut.

• You can’t go far in Canada without encountering poutine, a fatty, French-fried breakfast whose grease will slow the absorption of alcohol into your system. Take one batch of thick, well-cooked French fries and drown them in gravy and cheese curds. Drink with Canada Dry ginger ale to balance out the fat with sugar and further settle your stomach with the ginger.

• Try a helping of umeboshi or pickled sour plums in Japan, where the small tart fruits are believed to help digestion, improve liver function and prevent nausea. Perfect after those nights of too much sake.

• In Namibia they drink buffalo milk for a hangover – and no, you don’t have to drag your ass out to a pasture to actually milk the hulking beasts. Buffalo milk is a strong concoction that is a bit like a booze milkshake. Combine vanilla ice cream, dark rum, spiced rum, cream liqueur (like Bailey’s) and heavy cream. Blend well, sit back, relax and enjoy.

• For a hangover in Russia, skip the sweets and head right into the sauna to sweat the toxins out. Follow the sauna with a good beating by birch leaves and then eat a raw egg. You’ll be good as new!

• If the Russian remedy is too tame for you, try the favorite hangover cure in Mongolia, and pop into your mouth a pickled sheep’s eyeball soaked in tomato juice. Boiled sheep eyeballs also work well if you are running low on pickled ones.

• In Puerto Rico, people pre-empt their hangovers by rubbing lemon juice under the arm that they drink with.

• The traditional hangover remedy in SouthKorea is haejangguk, a stout soup that soothes the stomach and is made with cow bones or pork spine, cabbage, vegetables and coagulated ox blood. Find it sold on the streets every weekend morning.

• Sooth your hangover like they do in Haiti with voodoo. Just stick 13 pins into the cork of the bottle that did you wrong, and your hangover will fade away.

• In Australia the hangover cure of choice is Berocca, an over-the-counter tablet and nutritional supplement that delivers a big dose of B and C vitamins. Just plop one into a glass of water, and drink after it has been dissolved. Combine with a slice of Vegemite-covered toast and you will be ready for round two!

• Scotland’s favorite beverage after whisky is Irn Bru, a bright orange hangover remedy with a citrus taste that has been one of the best-selling drinks in Scotland since 1901!

• In Italy, the cure for hangovers and everything else is to drink several cups of strong, homemade espresso. Skip the milk and sugar and act like the grown-up you are.

• Perhaps China has the most sensible hangover remedy of all: Strong green tea with a big squirt of lemon juice for vitamin C.
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Post #6 made 12 years ago
My wife soaks in the outdoor hot tub and intermittently gets out to roll in the snow. She doesn’t like marmite though!

Jumping into a pool in the summer or the ocean helps too (think I just figured out why BarbeIco swims triathlons ;)).

I don’t remember having any bad hangovers honeymooning in Mexico, with the free drinks and the late nights and the siestas.

Perhaps we are really designed to stay up late, knocking back endless White Russians, and lie around under the coconut palms on the beach by day, with intermittent plunges into the ocean, and it’s everything else in life that causes the headache.

I think there may be a big psychosomatic element to hangovers.

Bob? What’s your answer to the morning after the night before?

Ps. Perhaps it's not such a good idea to mention this topic again on a Saturday morning. Sorry :evil: It's the only thing that comes to mind this morning though :)
Guinges

Post #7 made 12 years ago
Guinges,

To be honest. At 64 I never drink to excess! I make a fool of myself sober while trying not too. So why would I give up my self control and not remember who to apologize too the next day? Sober I know who I have to apologize too the next day!

When I was in the army in Vietnam I used to drink whatever made me drunk the night before. It's like getting back on the horse that thru you?
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Post #9 made 12 years ago
joshua wrote:BB, That is "the Hair of the Dog" remedy!
It sure is! The problem with mixing drinks is coming up with the correct hair mixture the next morning? :scratch:
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Post #10 made 12 years ago
Bob, would one of these "corpse revivers" be the correct hair mixture? (scroll down here)

They seem to have quite a few of the nastiest dogs covered.

Corpse reviver #2 is supposed to be very tasty: according to this cocktail site.

It makes a lot of sense not to drink too much, especially the next morning (not so much the night before).

Prevention is better than the cure. That was one of my questions in #1 “How do you do that?” (not drink too much) it sounds like a stupid question, but it’s one that has a lot of people stumped, including me sometimes.

I found that having really nice beer (home brew) constantly available, for me any way, after a while, leads to moderate drinking. Which is the complete opposite of what I thought might happen.
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Post #11 made 12 years ago
Guinges,
Prevention is better than the cure. That was one of my questions in #1 “How do you do that?” (not drink too much) it sounds like a stupid question, but it’s one that has a lot of people stumped, including me sometimes.
How do I do that? I just pace myself and sip! I don't drink or gulp. I sip. No one knows how much you drink if your sipping and moving around talking to everyone. Don't get me wrong I get buzzed but not smashed.

I was designated driver at a bachelor party once and only sipped juice. No one noticed that I was drinking no alcohol. The problem was I didn't have a drivers license. They forgot to ask that and I was to embarrassed to tell them. I graduated from high school on a Saturday and Monday I was in the Army! No time to take a test! I came home on leave for the wedding. I took the groom home after the party I "barley" could drive his car. They thought I was drunk (and that was OK?) but I had no driving experience at all! :idiot:

Seeing all those young men drinking stupidly stuck with me. I did spend most of my time in the Army under the influence but not to the extreme. I enjoy beer but not being loaded! Maybe it's because I have 8 grandsons and the first one is just turning 17? Lead by example?

Sorry for the long answer. It's 7:45 AM on a Sunday and I am on my second beer! I tend to overwrite when under the influence! :drink:
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Post #12 made 12 years ago
When I stopped smoking back in 2008 I basically stopped getting hangovers. If I have a proper session then the following day I might have some rehydration salts (as you would take if you have diarrhoea)then I'm fine.

Prior to that a hangover would last until lunchtime or beyond.
Regards

Nic

Post #14 made 12 years ago
BobBrews wrote:Guinges,

How do I do that? I just pace myself and sip! I don't drink or gulp. I sip. No one knows how much you drink if your sipping and moving around talking to everyone. Don't get me wrong I get buzzed but not smashed.
Bob’s advice on drinking slowly, works! I haven’t had a hangover for 3 weeks now! Thanks Bob.

Two guys last posted here, talking about smoking.

Does smoking lead to more drinking like drinking leads to more smoking?

Any tips on giving up smoking?

Does drinking lead to more eating?

Any tips on flour and sugar addiction? (Equally as harmful to health).

Someone asked me how to overcome addiction to carbs, and I had nothing to suggest, no champix for carbs, no support groups, no patches. There are some medications with slight appetite suppressing properties, support groups for weight loss, but nothing specifically for carb addiction. Like smoking though, once you give up, you can’t stand it. Other foods start to taste really good. I had a valentines slice of chocolate cake in a restaurant last night and I felt so ill after.

If we are going to give up a vice or two, does that leave a void that needs filling? And what to fill the void with, if there will be one?

Hmmmm :scratch: healthy vices? I suppose I could write to the pope and ask him...if he wasn’t retiring. Sex has to be a vice as it’s awfully hush hush. Joshua says home brewing is illegal in some US states, so maybe it’s a vice too...that’s great! Rum, porn and fireworks, discussed in another thread, sounds like a dangerous combination :whistle:

Sex, home brewing, porn, rum and firworks all together :party: don’t think I’m helping here :sad: I'd better shut up :headhit:
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Post #15 made 12 years ago
If anyone wants tips on quitting smoking PM me, I don't want to hijack this thread. I'm very active on a smoking cessation forum and have mentored a few people in their quit. Briefly its all about how you approach it, if you look on it as depriving yourself then its so much harder than if you see it as a positive thing of taking back control, being healthier and not burning money.
Regards

Nic

Post #16 made 12 years ago
Jeltz, Please hijack this thread and go for it. I bet you there are many people who want to hear what you have to say, and it will only take up a few KBs on the server. Less KBs than all the PMs you will get :)

ps. I asked the smoking question on behalf of a friend who reads this site. His doctor just told him he has emphysema and it is really pissing him off.
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Post #17 made 12 years ago
OK,

Actually its all about understanding how nicotine works. Nicotine is often quoted as being more addictive than many hard drugs, that is true in so much as its is very, very easy to get dependent on it however when coming off it the withdrawal is no where near as bad as most addictive substances.

It basically takes 3 weeks to go through the physical withdrawal from smoking and the first week is the hardest of those. After that point its all psychological, that's not to say that its easy, just ask anyone who has had an eating disorder or gambling addiction. It just means that over years (decades) that we smoked we build up associations with smoking and situations and have to break these associations one by one. Many of these associations are contradictory too and demonstrate that its psychological. For example I would smoke in the morning to wake me up and also smoke in the evening to relax me, how can one drug possibly act in two opposite ways according to the time of day? Simple it can't.

Nicotine is a stimulant that is all. It doesn't relax you what relaxes you is that when you are dependent on it your body wants to maintain sufficient levels of nicotine, if they are not present then it causes stress and anxiety so smoking relieves the stress that a lack of nicotine causes. The pleasure which is derived is as a result if removing the want for nicotine, the best analogy I can find is that of when you've been for a long car journey and you are busting for a pee, when you get to go then the relief is a great pleasure. Now you could drink pints and pints of water each day and hold it in until you are almost in pain then have a pee and feel the relief, but nobody does. All these situations that we have a smoke and think it enhances really the truth is that we can't enjoy or deal with that situation until we have gotten the issue of nicotine levels out of the way. Sometimes the levels are sufficient and we are just smoking due to habit but mostly we are topping up the nicotine tank. Effectively smokers are paying through the nose to make themselves feel how non-smokers do all the time, but after a few months of not smoking then you will be back to feeling "normal".

Approaching quitting in the right way and trading your mindset is what makes quitting much easier. If you constantly regard it as making a huge sacrifice then you will regret doing it, where as if you see it as healing and regaining, health wealth and control it becomes a positive thing which leaves you feeling up beat and proud of stopping. I never use the phrase giving up because in its very wording it implies depriving yourself.

The aim is always to let go of the idea that smoking is something which is in any way pleasurable and rewarding, otherwise staying stopped is very tricky once the initial euphoria of having mastered the physical side has worn off, which is why understanding the nature of the addiction and how the drug works is works. If you can become a contented non smoker then you won't want to go back to the slavery of smoking, trying to fit in all your smokes, the occasional trip out for a pack of ciggies at 11pm etc etc.

The journey of quitting can be quite bizarre as it is an insidious addiction, giving away your emotional crutch can cause a feeling of grieving, depression and loss but that is because we always reached for one at time of trouble. However nobody can ever say that smoking ever changed a situation, everything external is the same both before and after a smoke the only thing that is different is that your nicotine levels are higher.

Cravings come but they always go, whether you smoke or not. Cravings are not life threatening where as continuing to smoke is. Smoking is always a choice, nobody is holding a cigarette in your mouth and forcing you to inhale so exercise your choice to not smoke today and very soon you will have built days then weeks then months between now and your last smoke and the longer it is the easier it gets and the fewer situations crop up that you haven't previously dealt with.

Basically you have to learn, by practice, how to live your life without smoking and when you do it becomes a much simpler life.

There is a lot more info on http://www.whyquit.com but be warned some of it is a bit scary too. The forum I'm on is a British one called no smoking day and the UK day for that this year is 13th March so not long.
Regards

Nic

Post #18 made 12 years ago
My name is Lyle and I was a smoker. :smoke:
I have now been clean for about three years and have no,zero,nada,desire to ever smoke again. :nup:
Ihave gone through some very stressful times the last while and have been amazed at how the urge has never mainifested. I am DONE!! :champ:
Thanks Champex. :salute: :thumbs:
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Post #19 made 12 years ago
Lylo, You’re quite the guy :champ:

I smoked back in the eighties. The woman I met was a smoker and that got me started. It was a lifestyle.

Jeltz, You’re quite the guy too :champ: Great article! :thumbs: Are we allowed to copy and distribute that? I wrote something, as I am often caught trying to help people with smoking, but what I wrote was more factual and listed resources for help. I wouldn’t mind revising it and quoting from this thread if you were ok with that.

What about the lifestyle thing? If your leisure time involves getting together with your buddies in a smoke filled room and drinking beer. Would it be necessary to give that up? If your spouse is a dedicated smoker, what do you do? If you smoke when you drink socially, is it advisable to not drink socially for a bit?

One key thing is motivation. Sometimes the worst illnesses don’t provide enough motivation. I have patients with no legs from the peripheral vascular disease, several heart attacks, severe COPD, and they still smoke.

People hate being told what to do, it’s human nature, I hate it too. The only time that works is in BDSM. They put nasty pictures of illnesses, and warnings about impotence and all kinds of things on the cigarette packets in Canada and I don’t believe it helps.

Did the people you helped come to you with motivation? Can you help a person with no motivation? Any help with motivation? Self motivation? Self rewards?

What’s your view on Champix, wellbutrin, gum, patches, and the new nicotine mouth spray?

Thanks

Ps. I’m hoping people will chip in with their experiences like Lylo did.
Guinges

Post #20 made 12 years ago
By all means copy it, quote it do what you wish. :thumbs:

Lifestyle is a tricky one, personally I didn't go out on the beer with smokers until about 8 weeks into it. I tend to suggest that in the earliest stages try to stay reasonably sober and have a non smoking buddy who will look after you a bit. However you shouldn't avoid doing things, you really need to meet the associations and overcome them. To address the 2 examples you need to be happy with yourself as a non smoker. So I think that you have to accept that your spouse smokes and deal with the fact, maybe see if they will restrict their smoking to one room or outside. If you want to spend evenings with buddies in smoky rooms then again you have to confront the situation tough it out and next time it will be easier. However I suspect that when you go home after and catch the smell of smoke on your clothes then it won't be that appealing any more.

Champix seems to help people a lot and NRT gives people a little breathing space before they eventually go cold turkey. I tend to think that NRT makes the whole process more drawn out but ultimately people need to do what works for them and if NRT does it shouldn't be discouraged, however it should also be remembered that its feeding the body the drug which its addicted to, so really the objective is come off it. I have a significant issue with electronic cigarettes as although they are almost certainly less harmful than smoking they are just a different delivery system for an addictive drug and for me, at least, quitting smoking is synonymous with quitting nicotine.

Motivation can be like an ember, smother it or leave it alone and it will die. Fuel it with the right stuff and it will catch fire. Alas without the initial glow nothing is going to work, you can not help someone stop if they don't want to. What you can do is furnish them with the advice and encouragement which helps them maintain and build on their motivation.

Have your friend read this page http://www.woofmang.com/tales/index.shtml Kevin (the author) also has emphysema he may well find it useful.
Regards

Nic

Post #21 made 12 years ago
Good Day, After smoking from 1972 I had a graet program to quit Smoking in 2000.

I had a few fingers crushed by a Press, The doctors put them back toghter and gave me 6 days of Morphine drip.
Then, for 10 days small pills of 10mg Oxycodone.

For some unknown reason I did not wish to use Nicotine......for those ten days on Oxycodene, Nicotine shut off the pain reliver, So I was programmed not to use it. Still, today.

IMHO
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Post #23 made 12 years ago
Yep, I think Pavlov had that Idea.
If someone stomped your toes every time you lite up.....you may hit that person with a brick, or quit smoking!!!!!
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Post #24 made 12 years ago
So how's that oxycodone jones doing Joshua? :argh: :lol:
I can no lionger stand the smell of tobacco smoke and when a smoker walks by not even smoking I can't believe that I used to walk around smelling like that.It is great being so pure and righteous! :whistle:
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Post #25 made 12 years ago
Lylo,
It is great being so pure and righteous! :whistle:
Nothing wrong with that! Living longer means more time to drink beer! :drink:

Numb taste buds are another casualty of smoking. For most people that give up smoking their beer improves with out doing anything. In my case I may have to relight? :smoke:
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