Mates...
These days I work with a friend of mine my BIAB vessel (more info when it will finish) and his also.
He is engineer so he has tools and materials handy and he is considering not to use the grain bag instead he is willing to "manufacture" a "perforated grain bucket" with perforated stainless sheet consisting a zillion holes of 0.5mm diameter .
We discussed a lot his thoughts and I believe he will get more cloudy wort than I have with the usual Biab bag .
What are your thoughts on that?
Also are there more drawbacks using a setup like this ?
Does a more cloudy wort affect the quality of the finished beer ?
Post #2 made 14 years ago
How you going nik 
?
I have written some stuff on this idea before somewhere but can't find it??? It was something I wanted to do in my earlier BIAB days but then discounted as with more thinking, I actually couldn't see any real advantages. The idea seemed very good to me for a long time and I would have gone ahead with it if I had found a way of doing it easily.
I am glad I didn't.
As far as I can see, a basket offers no real advantages over a bag with a pulley.
I also think there are no disadvantages to making and using a basket besides the fact that it takes up a lot more storage space than a bag. (Edit: I actually do think there are disadvantages - see below.)
So, my thinking is it's fine but I would be vary wary of going ahead with this idea thinking it will be easier/less messy than pulling a bag with a pulley. I don't think it actually solves any problems. A bag actually works quite well for two reasons...
1. Most bag designs mean that the wort will drip from a single point rather than from over an entire circle.
2. As you said, no stainless steel basket will be able to have holes as fine as a BIAB bag.
In my thinking on this subject (which I pondered for probably a year) I contemplated putting a BIAB bag inside a basket. I thought this was a great idea at the time but finally managed to think a bit more ahead and my conclusion was that my thinking was starting to get a bit silly
. All I was doing was adding more things that had no real value to an already perfectly easy system.
Around this time, I finally moved to an apartment where I could actually use a rope and pulley. Since then, life is a breeze. There is no brewing method I know of that doesn't have an aspect which isn't messy or time-consuming. BIAB is the least messy and time-consuming.
I love seeing threads like this though. It makes me think that I wasn't silly thinking on the basket idea for so long. matr actually made a SS basket in this thread. A few others have done something similar but I haven't heard yet that it is something we all should do.
Hope the above ramble helps you out a bit nik. Always great to hear from our Grecian BIAB ambassador.
PP
?I have written some stuff on this idea before somewhere but can't find it??? It was something I wanted to do in my earlier BIAB days but then discounted as with more thinking, I actually couldn't see any real advantages. The idea seemed very good to me for a long time and I would have gone ahead with it if I had found a way of doing it easily.
I am glad I didn't.
As far as I can see, a basket offers no real advantages over a bag with a pulley.
I also think there are no disadvantages to making and using a basket besides the fact that it takes up a lot more storage space than a bag. (Edit: I actually do think there are disadvantages - see below.)
So, my thinking is it's fine but I would be vary wary of going ahead with this idea thinking it will be easier/less messy than pulling a bag with a pulley. I don't think it actually solves any problems. A bag actually works quite well for two reasons...
1. Most bag designs mean that the wort will drip from a single point rather than from over an entire circle.
2. As you said, no stainless steel basket will be able to have holes as fine as a BIAB bag.
In my thinking on this subject (which I pondered for probably a year) I contemplated putting a BIAB bag inside a basket. I thought this was a great idea at the time but finally managed to think a bit more ahead and my conclusion was that my thinking was starting to get a bit silly
. All I was doing was adding more things that had no real value to an already perfectly easy system.Around this time, I finally moved to an apartment where I could actually use a rope and pulley. Since then, life is a breeze. There is no brewing method I know of that doesn't have an aspect which isn't messy or time-consuming. BIAB is the least messy and time-consuming.
I love seeing threads like this though. It makes me think that I wasn't silly thinking on the basket idea for so long. matr actually made a SS basket in this thread. A few others have done something similar but I haven't heard yet that it is something we all should do.
Hope the above ramble helps you out a bit nik. Always great to hear from our Grecian BIAB ambassador.
PP
Last edited by PistolPatch on 16 Dec 2010, 20:45, edited 5 times in total.
If you have found the above or anything else of value on BIABrewer.info, consider supporting us by getting some BIPs!
-
- SVA Brewer With Over 100 Brews From Australia
-
Post #3 made 14 years ago
Thanks Pat .
I have tried to convince him that is somehow waste of time and money but he is on the heap but I am in a good way .
Actually I am converting a 60 liter SS vessel called "thermobox" (insulated pot).
I will fit an electric element 3Kw and a SS tap and It will be my full batch Biab vessel.
When I will finish it I will post some pictures.
I have tried to convince him that is somehow waste of time and money but he is on the heap but I am in a good way .
Actually I am converting a 60 liter SS vessel called "thermobox" (insulated pot).
I will fit an electric element 3Kw and a SS tap and It will be my full batch Biab vessel.
When I will finish it I will post some pictures.
-
- SVA Brewer With Over 100 Brews From Greece
-
Post #4 made 14 years ago
You are the man Nick
If your friend goes ahead with his perforated basket please let us know how the brews go.
We'll look forward to the pics of your full BIAB vessell
If your friend goes ahead with his perforated basket please let us know how the brews go.
We'll look forward to the pics of your full BIAB vessell
If you have found the above or anything else of value on BIABrewer.info, consider supporting us by getting some BIPs!
-
- SVA Brewer With Over 100 Brews From Australia
-
Post #5 made 14 years ago
I think I managed to convince him .I asked allready my wife's mother to make us two bags .PistolPatch wrote:You are the man Nick
If your friend goes ahead with his perforated basket please let us know how the brews go.
We'll look forward to the pics of your full BIAB vessell
My vessel is'n something special except shinny the only advantage is the built in thermal insulation .I believe Santa will bring me some parts in time to finish it and make my first 20 liter brew this period of time.
But from scientists view are there any drawbacks with not so fine filtration that a bag provides ? Expect the reasons explained (cost,size,simplicity,ect,ect)
Last edited by nik on 17 Dec 2010, 15:30, edited 5 times in total.
-
- SVA Brewer With Over 100 Brews From Greece
-
