[WARNING: This post is a bit off-topic and mainly intended for 'older' or more experienced members of BIABrewer.info. It's probably worth at least a quick scan by all members though, especially points 2 and 3 below.]
I think Bob's links above are a good sample of how little we really know about hop management. I've written here before how the most interesting talk I ever heard on hop management was from Alex Troncoso from Little Creatures Brewery. He's no longer there but used to brew Little Creatures Pale Ale which either Jamil or John said, when Alex was brewing was, "Just like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, only better!" Please look up my posts on Alex that I have written here.
I've just been on holiday but noticed several threads here concerning hop management. This site has some very experienced and educated posters - the brewers I am writing to here. You all usually write valuable posts and hopefully I do the same. I think it is time we all stepped up a level though. I'm not entirely sure of how to do this but have a few ideas. I suspect that doing the following things would make a massive difference in how we can best help other members and each other*...
1. Admit that many things can't be quantified: Hop and chilling management is a great example. The best formulas we use will only get the brewere in the ballpark and, if you publish a recipe that doesn't say how you chilled and when you employed the chilling, you really can't talk well to others about a hop bill.
2. Learn and use the terminology that has been developed by BIABrewer.info: EOBV, EOBV-A, VIF and VIP are much easier terms to use than batch size which can mean any one of those four things. Ten minutes of study of
this post will get any experienced brewer familiar with this very easy terminology that has taken several years to develop, simple though it is. That post shows there are
only six essential and extremely valuable terms to learn.
3. Consider learning the BIABacus for 30 minutes: Quite a few of the experienced brewers that actively post here have learned the BIABacus. Many active posters and friends of mine are still waiting though for it to be finalised or made into a 'real' program. If you learn the BIABacus and use it as a communication tool, you will be fast-tracking the new generation of brewers to a whole new level just as BIAB has. The BIABacus is the ultimate fast-track in educational software despite it's lack of drop-down lists etc, etc. Have a beer and try it out...
AcesHigh dropped in for a beer this arvo and he uses another program. I think we spent less than a minute putting his set-up into the BIABacus and then three more looking at all the info it gave. He saw things he hadn't seen before. Another five minutes was spent on the current limitations and what we could do in the future if we get some enthusiastic programmers on board.
It is no exaggeration to say that many thousands of hours have been spent on the BIABacus, the site re-structure (still being worked on) etc, etc. I said to AcesHigh this afternoon that even I, long-winded poster that I am, could work full-time on this site for a year and even then the current goals would most probably not be complete. Most of these current goals, information-wise, can already be found on BIABrewer.info. Sometimes they will take 10 minutes to find by an experienced poster. Sometimes it will take 30 seconds. Can you 'older' members help the newer members find them or write new answers?
That last sentence would be my fourth point here.
I'm a long-winded poster which has its advantages and disadvantages. I know most of you regular posters do read what I write, god knows how

, but do you think the above four points are reasonable?
Basically they are all about taking a few minutes to learn a common language and be knowledgeable about what info we already have here so as we can get new brewers up to speed on talking about the 'real' grey areas of brewing.
AcesHigh has got me drunk!
PP
* I think our goal here on BIABrewer.info should be to knock basic questions on the head as quickly as possible. Other forums can spend four hundred posts and get no answer on the most basic of subjects. I think that any thread here that continues for any length should mean we are all having fun and that the question has been answered or that the question is one of the many grey areas we are attempting to turn into black and white.
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