First BIAB - Programmers Elbow

Post #1 made 9 years ago
Hi guys,
I have finally managed my first BIAB after what seems like months of gathering together the bits and pieces I needed.

I settled on Programmers Elbow from the BCS book. Everything went reasonably well, no major dramas, at least until it came time to transfer the wort from the kettle to the fermenter. I had about 28 litres of cooled wort in my kettle.

I attempted a "whirlpool" with the intention of draining the wort into the fermenter through the tap at the bottom of my kettle. Anyway, after swirling the wort round for a while, I let it settle for about 15 minutes. Looking into the kettle at this point I didn't see a nice wee cone of trub in the bottom as I was hoping for, instead the trub completely covered the bottom, although it was higher in the centre. I decided against using the tap and instead siphoned the wort into the fermenter. Went great for 18 litres then I reached the trub and stopped siphoning.

This is where things went a wee bit wrong. I topped the fermenter up with 5 litres of water to reach my target of 23 litres. Kicked myself afterwards as I know I should have just gone with the 18 litres.

The initial target strength of the recipe was 5.4%. I know by adding the 5 litres of water to the fermenter I will have diluted it and changed the outcome, perhaps by a fair bit. Hopefully it will still be nice and drinkable.

What I would like some opinions on is the amount of trub.
Is 10 litres of trub out of 28 litres normal?
Should I have continued siphoning the trub into the fermenter until I reached the 23 litre mark instead of stopping as soon as I reached the trub?
I added about 3/4 of a protafloc tablet 15 minutes before the end of the boil. Instructions say 1 tablet per 5 gallons of wort but I have read it is better to go with half a tablet per 5 gallons - would this make a big difference?

Anyway, overall I am happy with the outcome of my first batch and just itching to get stuck into the next :)

Thanks for any opinions on the trub :drink:

Post #2 made 9 years ago
It's a learning experience and you will get beer, so call it a win. By whirlpooling, you re-suspended all the particles. They might have formed a taller cone if the whirlpool was faster/longer, but then you would have used the valve on the kettle and faced a different situation.
I think you should not be so averse to allowing trub in the fermenter unless you have an example of a bad result from doing that. 10 L left behind from 28 L is a bigger loss than anyone wants. Some of us transfer everything from kettle to primary fermenter for familiar recipes. Greater than 10% losses to trub at KFL time start to worry me on 20 L VIF scale. You can transfer more wort and remove trub a week later if you racki to a secondary fermenter. It will have compacted with precipitated yeast by then.
You will figure out what to do about future dilutions in the primary fermenter based on this experience and reading forum posts by PistolPatch about why he does that.
Current advice for *floc addition is 10 minutes or less left in the boil. It serves to agglomerate particulates and make trub "stickier" and might not work well if boiled too long. Maybe yours let you down?h
Drink what you made as you cannot drink what you planned to make. Relax and enjoy while looking forward to your next brew day.
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Post #4 made 9 years ago
Hi dmkelgin

When I started all grain I was worried about letting to much trub into the fermentor but hated wasting all that wort. I read this http://brulosophy.com/2014/06/02/the-gr ... ts-are-in/ And my next batch which was the programmers elbow so I dumped everything into the fermentor and since then haven't worried that much about trub in the fermentor. I use hops sacks (actually my BIAB bag) so not hop material is making its way into the fermentor. No off flavours or murky beers. After primary I'll transfer to secondary if dry hopping or siphon off to a bottling bucket hence leaving all the now compacted trub behind.
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