Grist Bill Upsizing/Efficiency

Post #1 made 11 years ago
I have created a Firestone Walker Pale 31 clone recipe in BeerSmith and this will be the first BIAB batch I make. Regarding decreased efficiency when doing BIAB, is it standard procedure to simply ingrease the base malt by a pound or two over what is called for in the all-grain recipe as I have heard some BIAB brewers say? This seems a bit haphazard to me. Thoughts?
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Post #2 made 11 years ago
Beerpal1, you won't increase efficiency with More Grain.

A longer Mash time will give you Better efficiency. I suggest 90 minutes, and stir the mash. Keeping a steady mash temperature can be a problem with Small Batches, so, a good Thermometer is Necessary.


If You can, move away from BeerSmith..try BIABACUS.

Download BIABACUS at http://www.biabrewer.info/viewtopic.php?t=1869

and Check the Clear Brewing Terminology (CBT) http://www.biabrewer.info/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2685

To see the definitions used in the spreadsheet.

I hope this helps.
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Post #3 made 11 years ago
I will spend some time looking at BIABACUS. Thanks.
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Post #4 made 11 years ago
Welcome to the forum BP1 :salute:,

Unfortunately in all-grain, it is really easy to come across misinformation. You've come across a big bit of misinformation that is by no means uncommon, the myth that BIAB is inefficient. The opposite is actually the truth. BIAB is a highly efficient method of all-grain brewing. It is more efficient than traditional batch-sparge brewing and from what I have seen now over many years, it is probably as efficient as fly-sparging.

The inefficiency myth initially originated from a failure to realise that BIAB (full-volume brewing) is totally different from no-sparge brewing. Many brewers, including quite a few that write professionally, actually don't realise that no-sparge brewing is a form of brewing where only about half the water required for the brew actually touches the grain. In other words, there is no active or passive sparging. In BIAB, like traditional brewing, all the water touches the grain and in BIAB, it touches it for a relatively long time. There are many other reasons why this myth is perpetuated and they are always due to poor education and/or poor terminology. (These podcasts, here and here, deal with this issue in more detail.)

Suffice to say that you have no need to worry about any sort of inefficiency with BIAB.

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Josh mentioned above, Clear Brewing Terminology. One of the podcasts above also deals with this. Understanding where terminology currently used on forums, magazine articles and even in books, falls down will prevent you spending the rest of your brewing career running around in circles and scratching your head :scratch:.

Josh also mentioned using the BIABacus rather than BeerSmith. At a first glance, the BIABacus will look 'too hard' but it is actually faster to learn, far simpler, far more powerful and far safer than anything else out there. In fact, there is nothing else out there like it. If you don't have time to check it out before your brew day, feel free to post your .bsm file up here and we can check it over for you.

All the best on your maiden voyage,
PP
Last edited by PistolPatch on 10 Mar 2015, 19:12, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #5 made 11 years ago
PistolPatch wrote:If you don't have time to check it out before your brew day, feel free to post your .bsm file up here and we can check it over for you.
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Last edited by BeerPal1 on 12 Mar 2015, 00:38, edited 1 time in total.
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Conditioning: Firestone Walker Pale 31 clone
On draught: Ale Industries Uncle Jessie XPA (commercially brewed)
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Post #6 made 11 years ago
Good stuff BP1 :peace:,

In future, just post your .bsm file as this will contain all info on the recipe, especially your equipment profile. This pic though is all I need to let me know that your plan is looking fairly okay. Not too sure where a few of your numbers originated from but everything is within a reasonable ball-park - certainly nothing to be worried about.

:peace:
PP
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Post #7 made 11 years ago
PistolPatch wrote:Good stuff BP1 :peace:,

In future, just post your .bsm file as this will contain all info on the recipe, especially your equipment profile. This pic though is all I need to let me know that your plan is looking fairly okay. Not too sure where a few of your numbers originated from but everything is within a reasonable ball-park - certainly nothing to be worried about.
Thanks for looking my recipe over. So the grain bill can be used in a BIAB batch as is? No modifications?
Last edited by BeerPal1 on 12 Mar 2015, 22:37, edited 1 time in total.
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Currently fermenting: Nothing
Conditioning: Firestone Walker Pale 31 clone
On draught: Ale Industries Uncle Jessie XPA (commercially brewed)
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Post #8 made 11 years ago
Yep, you are good to go :peace:. Before your second brew we can tighten things up a little but there really is nothing to worry about on this one. Brew on Pal :P.

:luck:
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