Southern English Brown recipe questions

Post #1 made 8 years ago
So, I am experimenting with my own recipe for a Southern English Brown Ale. Looking for any advise or thoughts to help me learn. I looked at different recipes etc and put the below together (BIABacus also attached).

Questions:
Using BIABacus spreadsheet how might I increase the Final Gravity? looking for 1.013
What can I do to make sure there is decent "mouth feel" etc in the beer so it is not too watery? Anything in particular I should focus on?
I think the recipe gets me in the ballpark of a Southern English Brown and I have been reading about brown malts so thought it time to try a recipe, but any pointers are appreciated.


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Recipe Overview

Brewer: Brew4me
Style: Southern English Brown
Source Recipe Link:
ABV: 4.1% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)

Original Gravity (OG): 1.042
IBU's (Tinseth): 18
Bitterness to Gravity Ratio: 0.43
Colour: 56.9 EBC = 28.9 SRM

Kettle Efficiency (as in EIB and EAW): 85 %
Efficiency into Fermentor (EIF): 72.8 %

Note: This is a Pure BIAB (Full Volume Mash)

Times and Temperatures

Mash: 90 mins at 67.2 C = 153 F
Boil: 90 min
Ferment: 14 days at 19.5 C = 67.1 F

Volumes & Gravities
(Note that VAW below is the Volume at Flame-Out (VFO) less shrinkage.)
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Total Water Needed (TWN): 20.56 L = 5.43 G
Volume into Boil (VIB): 19.05 L = 5.03 G @ 1.033
Volume of Ambient Wort (VAW): 14.35 L = 3.79 G @ 1.042
Volume into Fermentor (VIF): 12.3 L = 3.25 G @ 1.042
Volume into Packaging (VIP): 11.39 L = 3.01 G @ 1.011 assuming apparent attenuation of 75 %

The Grain Bill (Also includes extracts, sugars and adjuncts)

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73.5% Bards Pale Ale Malt (3.5 EBC = 1.8 SRM) 1759 grams = 3.88 pounds
10.6% Simpson Dark Crystal 70-80L (198.6 EBC = 100.8 SRM) 253 grams = 0.56 pounds
6.7% Simpson Extra Dark Cyrstal 160L (425.5 EBC = 216 SRM) 159 grams = 0.35 pounds
5.3% Crisp Brown Malt 60-70L (172 EBC = 87.3 SRM) 128 grams = 0.28 pounds

4% Simpson Chocolate Malt 375-450L (1132.6 EBC = 574.9 SRM) 96 grams = 0.21 pounds


The Hop Bill (Based on Tinseth Formula)

18 IBU UK Kent Goldings Pellets (5%AA) 18.9 grams = 0.668 ounces at 60 mins

Mash Steps

Mash Type: Pure BIAB (Full-Volume Mash): Saccharifiaction for 90 mins at 67.2 C = 153 F

Strike Water Needed (SWN): 20.97 L = 5.54 G 67.7 C = 153.9 F

Miscellaneous Ingredients


Chilling & Hop Management Methods

Fermentation & Conditioning

Fermentation: Nottingham / Safale 05 for 14 days at 19.5 C = 67.1 F

Req. Volumes of CO2: 2
Serving Temp: 12 C = 53.6 F
Condition for 10 days.
Consume within 6 months.

Special Instructions/Notes on this Beer

ferment at 68F


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Post #2 made 8 years ago
First glance I would say that an easy change would be to use Maris Otter or Golden Promise in place of the Bairds Pale. Although I am really no familiar with the Bairds I am familiar with the other 2 and are great in English Browns. The Brown malt is great.
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Post #3 made 8 years ago
My only Suggestions is 153F should give you a balanced fermentability/Mouth feel, But 156F will give you more Mouth Feel, and Sweeter Flavor that you may Prefer, for a Southern Brown.
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Post #4 made 8 years ago
thanks guys,
The Bairds was described as a fully modified and as a "work horse" - so I thought I would see how it works. I have heard a lot of positives on the Maris Otter.
I am debating on increasing the temperature, I expect a southern brown to be sweeter but don't want to get to crazy.

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Post #5 made 8 years ago
So, looks like I will get time this weekend to brew. Already have the Bairds so will see how that brews - the Bairds is supposed to be known for its breadiness flavor which is what I was looking for. Will keep the Maris Otter in mind for the next English style brew.
Will also take your advice Joshua and go with the 156F.

Any thoughts on a mashout of 170F (77C) for last 15 minutes. - my reading to date shows some saying don't bother. I read somewhere that if not over 2 quarts/pound grain a mashout is not needed. BIABacus shows me at 4+ quart/pound - any advice or links are appreciated.
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Post #6 made 8 years ago
Mash out is Optional, it helps Kill off the enzymes, and helps 'thin' the sweet liquor's Density.

It does cut 10-15 minutes from the Brew day.

JUST, get the Grains out of the kettle, BEFORE 176F, then temperature that the Tannin's and other Things come out of Grain.
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Post #8 made 8 years ago
the Brewing went great - GAW ~1.043 (shooting for 1.042), EIB 82%, EAW 83%, EIF 70% - best efficiency numbers yet (this was my tenth BIAB)!
With the new pot I need to tweak my evap # down a bit.

Joshua - raising the temp I think did the trick - wort going into the fermentor tasted great.

Lylo you're right the Brown Malt is great stuff. Interesting, I was reading how it was once very popular but lost its way until rediscovered in homebrewing... Definitely will be using this again. Bairds also smelled and tasted good - nice biscuit taste - will see how it all ends up.

thanks again for the tips/advice.

B4M
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