BIAB Recipes

1. All-grain Paulaner Clone - German Wheatbeer

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   Wish me luck - my 2nd wheatbeer, taken from onclick= window.open(this.href);return false; and basically dumped into BIABacus. I've added a few different bits and bobs of advice I've picked up elsewhere into the recipe but it's basically the same bar the pitching and the yeast.
   
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   Just wanted to drop by and thank for this recipe!
   I tried this recipe (with some small adjustments to the available ingredients and my small pot) and it turned out great!
   Already did it a second time, with the added bonus of washing the yeast from the first batch.
   
   cheers
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   7 years ago
2. IPA's adaptation

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   First post by Juaolla, 7 years ago

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   Hello guys, 
   This weekend I'm trying to brew an adaptation of windriver's IPA Three of a kind . 
   In my case, I only have two suitable hops, so mine is Two of a kind . I adjunct the Biabacus excel file. 
   I would like to know if my substitutions are correct, specially the grain. Water volumes and so I manage well with my equipment. 
   In fact this will be the 5th beer I do and everything has gone properly before. 
   Thank you very much for any help or comment. 
   Hugs 
   
             Juan Angel

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   Hi Scott, and thank you for your fast answer.  
   
   I would recommend to a) DON'T skip a 2nd dry Hop session. If need be can be same Hop as the other
   
   I am not planning skipping any DH, perhaps I have misunderstood something. I thougt the original recipe indicates you have to do an unique DH with both Amarillo and Simcoe hops mixed together. I thought of doing my DH with cascade at a rate of 4 gr/liter. I am still pretty new in the art of homebrewing. 
   It seems the original recipe says...
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3. Duvel Clone?

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   First post by bullshift, 7 years ago

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   Hello everyone,
   
   Still making my first steps in Brewing, but already have 6 brews under the belt. So far I haven't followed any recipe to the letter, I check a few recipes online for inspiration and adjust to my ingredients and equipment with BIABacus. I didn't have to flush any beer down the drain, so either it's working or I'm just stubborn  :angry:
   Recently got a Anova sous vide controller, which works perfectly for controlling mash temperature in my stove top setup. It helps me feel...

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   Goulaigan,
   I didn't cook any complicated food yet, just steaks, chicken breast and such... but that does sound like something I'll try soon!
    Anyway, I've done some googling and checked some youtube videos before trying the Anova for beer brewing. I have just used it for the mash, didn't try to use it for the boil part.
   I tried to keep the brew bag away from it, by putting a small strainer in the propeller area, so that the bag doesn't get stuck. It seemed to go fine. I really liked using it...
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4. Pale Ale Recipe -

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   First post by Brew4me, 7 years ago

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   Thought I would share this recipe - bottled today and it tasted very good. :thumbs:
   I was going for a solid malt / biscuit and bread smell and taste so went low on the hops and added in 8% Victory Malt.
   The fermentation chamber smelled like I was baking bread all week.  
   The US-05 dry yeast kicked up a storm - one of the few times I did not use a blow-off tub  :nup:
   Pete
   BIABacus PR1.3TBrew4ME_WillsPaleHorizonAle.xls   

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   Upon further contemplation (sampling) today - I think an increase in hops would improve the beer overall. Not a lot - the idea was to focus on the biscuit flavor, but a bit more on the bittering would improve.  I might even suggest throwing a little more wheat malt in for more head retention and body.  
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5. The Old Speckled Hen (clone)

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   First post by hashie, 13 years ago

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   OVERVIEW
   
   Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
   Name: The Old Speckled Hen (clone)
   Yeast: Danstar Nottingham Ale Yeast
   Fermentation Temperature: 16°C
   Original Gravity: 1.053
   Total IBU's: 38.4
   Colour (EBC): 27.5
   Efficiency at End of Boil: 81%
   Mash Length (mins): 90
   Boil Length (mins): 90
   Your Vessel Type (Pot/Keggle/Urn): Keggle
   Source/Credits:
   Notes/Instructions/Comments: A very malty example of an English Pale Ale, Great drink on a winters night.
   
   Volumes etc.
   
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   I've been brewing this for a few years now - Thanks Hashie :)
   
   This will be up to your individual tastebuds.  But I've kept the aroma hop as East Kent Goldings but changed the flavour to Styrian Goldings and while I love the original recipe, I personally prefer this modification.  It's a tad (an amateur homebrewers term for a bit ) fruitier, but I'm having a struggle to place it.  Maybe loquats?
   
   I just replaced like amount for like amount from the recipe and it seems about right (dependant on...
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   7 years ago
6. Adaptation of American Brown Ale

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   First post by Juaolla, 7 years ago

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   Hi guys, 
   I am getting more and more excited with my brewings. I have tasted my second EPA smash and it is really good. I am bottling a wheat beer, that finally I did only with pale ale and wheat (I asked about using a little of Crystal Malt) and I am thinking of adapt an American Brown Ale of the book Brewing Classic Styles . 
   It is the recipe called Janet's ABA . I attach the biabacus file and I expect for suggestions. 
   I will brew it next week, hopefully. I know I push the limits of my...

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   Hi Juan,
   Based on your file:
   For the original recipe (Brewing Classic Styles book) the VAW you should use is21.82L, but in your BIABacus you are setting the desired IBU so you are ok here.
   Little heavy on the two-row I would bring it down to ~65% and up the wheat based on the original recipe.
   Hop substitutes look fine.
   I would suggest reducing the VIF to minimize the water adjustments.  For example - VIF to 3.7L and just add 1L of water to fermentor, which would also help cool the...
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7. Black pilsner

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   First post by Brew4me, 7 years ago

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   So I just sampled my black pilsner lager and was very satisfied so I thought I would post and share. 
   I chilled to about 44F (7C), pitched and then let warm up to 50F (10C) followed the fast fermentation process - at about 50% attenuated I bumped up the temp stature 5 degrees every 12 hours until hit 68F (20C). Kept here until fermentation done.  Then slowly brought down 5 degrees every 12 hours until  close to 32 F (0C).  At this point I largered around 32F for 2 plus weeks. Bottled and sat at...

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   So I just sampled my black pilsner lager and was very satisfied so I thought I would post and share. 
   I chilled to about 44F (7C), pitched and then let warm up to 50F (10C) followed the fast fermentation process - at about 50% attenuated I bumped up the temp stature 5 degrees every 12 hours until hit 68F (20C). Kept here until fermentation done.  Then slowly brought down 5 degrees every 12 hours until  close to 32 F (0C).  At this point I largered around 32F for 2 plus weeks. Bottled and sat at...
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   7 years ago
8. Wheat beer with Pale Ale

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   First post by Juaolla, 7 years ago

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   Hi guys, 
   
   I want to make a wheat beer for my third brewing. I have done two pale ale smash beer and everything has been all right. First one, Magnum 44, I have already tried and it is really nice. The second one is still in the fermentor. 
   
   So, I adjunct the biabacus spreadsheet of my third recipe. I have found some similar one in a Spanish forum, and I have adapted it to biabacus (I love this tool!!!). 
   What do you think, expert brewers, of it? Would it be adequately? 
   Thank you very much for...

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   Hi Juaollo,
   Fist off if, I'll state the obvious - you could use a slightly bigger pot then you would not have to make full volume variations.  But with that said, I have also done this with success.  There is some good info on the site that discusses trade-offs in do so (if you haven't read them already).
   With regard to malt - I do not think you need the Crystal Malt - good wheat beer can be made with just wheat or wheat and pilsner malt splits.  Not saying you can't use the crystal - beauty of...
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9. Another Smash recipe

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   First post by Juaolla, 7 years ago

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   Hello again, 
   
   I am trying to do another brew this weekend. I would like to do another smash beer with pale ale and target hops to differentiate the flavor between target and magnum hops, as far as I did the first smash with this one. 
   I would like some expert to check my recipe. I base in the previous one, that was revised by Scott (Magnum 44 smash APA). I am not sure of which final density I can estimate. 
   I fill the form:
    
   Style: English Pale Ale
   Name: Bull 30
   Yeast: Muntons Ale...

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   Thank you for the advice.
   I will prepare water and I will try to keep some space in the kettle. 
   I did not have these kind of problems in my first brew, but I will be attentive. 
   I will tell you. Next Sunday I hope will be a brewing day  :yum:
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10. SMaSH Magnum 44

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    First post by Juaolla, 7 years ago

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    Hello everybody, 
    First of all, I would like to introduce me and apologize for my writing faults. My name is Juan Angel and I come from Valencia, Spain. 
    I have a friend who did some homemade beer a years ago. It was nice, however it was a kit beer. Later I started to keep some information about making beer at home and I discovered the BIAB method. It is not very spread in Spain, and so, I arrived to this website. I have read most of the basic posts and I think I am ready to make my first AG...

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    That ring of foam is from active fermentation. When the yeast are in their growth phase is when most of the sugars are consumed and the moat activity can be seen. The phase you are in now is the yeast slowly cleaning up after themselves. Because of the low temperature they are working really slow if they haven't gone to sleep. If you can get the temperature up over 18 to 20 it will help.
    Don't rush things. You are really going to need 2 weeks for things to finish up.
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    7 years ago
11. Belgian Quad help

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    First post by jmculak, 7 years ago

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    Per my conversation with Mad Scientist over on homebrewtalk I am posting this recipe to make sure I have input the correct numbers from the original recipe.  Thanks
    
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    The point of a kit is convenience.  Let's take a look at how to brew this according to NB.  They assume a 75% efficiency and  20 L of VAW.  Attached is how this kit is entered into BIABacus.
    
    Adjusting the boil time and evaporation rate here doesn't effect the grain bill weight, just allows/adjusts the water amount.
    
    A 1.090 OG happens to be about the same efficiency with BIABacus. :)
    
    Notice the Y entered for using a hop sock, that does effect the grain weight.
    
    Let us know if you have any...
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12. All Late Addition Citra Pale Ale

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    First post by Ralphus, 12 years ago

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    This recipe comes courtesy of Kal Warner, a well respected Canadian Brewer. A friend and I have both brewed it and it's fantastic. Highly recommended if you like a citrusy but well balanced pale ale.
    
    Original recipe:
    
    I used The Calculator to scale it to suit my equipment and it worked flawlessly. I should add that I substituted Pilsner malt for 2-row pale without any issues.

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    BIABacus
    
    As in a simple calculator, an abacus
    
    Snappy and includes BIAB ;)
    
    So... that was when the name was born. I learn more and more reading all these posts
    Kudos stux
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    7 years ago
13. All Grain Badger Clone - Golden Glory (Peach Premium Bitter)

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    First post by tim_n, 7 years ago

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    BIABacus Pre-Release 1.3T RECIPE REPORT
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    Badger Clone - Golden Glory
    
    Recipe Overview
    
    Brewer: Tim
    Style: Premium Bitter
    Source Recipe Link:
    ABV: 4.5% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)
    
    Original Gravity (OG): 1.047
    IBU's (Tinseth): 42.4
    Bitterness to Gravity Ratio: 0.9
    Colour:
    
    Kettle Efficiency (as in EIB and EAW): 84 %
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    Ahhh, kettle CM was too high. I had 70cm wide, 70cm high. It's 70l! 45cm wide, 45cm tall! Good spot - have corrected both the download and the recipe above.
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14. Snidey Weiss - German Wheatbeer

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    First post by tim_n, 7 years ago

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    BIABacus Pre-Release 1.3T RECIPE REPORT
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    Snidey Weiss
    
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    Brewer: Tim
    Style: German Wheatbeer
    Source Recipe Link:
    ABV: 5.1% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)
    
    Original Gravity (OG): 1.053
    IBU's (Tinseth):
    Bitterness to Gravity Ratio:
    Colour:
    
    Kettle Efficiency (as in EIB and EAW): 83.1 %
    Efficiency into Fermentor (EIF): 71.2 %...

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    What I can say was it was a very nice wheatbeer.
    
    ... and that is all that matters. :drink:
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    7 years ago
15. Malinois Belgian Summer Saison

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    First post by FatDog, 7 years ago

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    This is my 3rd eBIAB beer and is by far the best. Absoulutly delicious! I'm not a pro at tasting notes, but, this is spot on.
    
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    Malinois Belgian Summer Saison - Batch 1
    
    Recipe Overview
    
    Brewer: Ron Kroetz
    Style: 25B Saison
    Source Recipe Link:
    ABV: 8.5% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)
    
    Original Gravity...

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    Congrats Ron and glad to hear you are enjoying it all :peace:.
    
    Looks like you are keeping good records which is great.
    
    Oops! Hold on!....
    
    I think your BIABacus file has been compromised at some point. See how, in Section B, your kettle diameter is 45.1cm and the height 39.0cm? The problem is that this BIABacus file is telling you that your kettle capacity is 122.3L whereas it should be 62.3L.
    
    So, there is some problem there and this might explain why a few of your actual numbers are out of...
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16. My first BIABactus recipe, not so special IPA

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    First post by tyresbeer, 7 years ago

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    Hi y'all.
    
    After a couple of hours I think I've wrapped my head around BIABactus and created my first recipe. I have used BeerSmith until now and I've transferred the recipe to BIABactus.
    
    Any comments would be appreciated, this will be my 7th batch, the 4th with my current setup, volumes etc. I've managed to make 3 good beers, one meh and 2 terrible ones. Let's hope this one is awesome!
    
    Side note: I know 90 min mash / boil is recommended, but being a stay at home dad, adding an extra hour to...

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    I'm at sea level. The jug is measured, both with a 1L cup and with the gradings on my new fermentor. But, just to be safe, I've ordered a new scale so now I can weight my water in order to be super accurate.
    
    The age of the grains could be one issue, I store them in a walk in pantry that currently is at 19C.
    
    I think the beer might be good, it just annoying when you're new at something and the one constant you have are the numbers provided and they are way of. I'd rather not use DME, Not for...
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17. Belgium Saison

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    First post by tim_n, 7 years ago

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    BIABacus Pre-Release 1.3T RECIPE REPORT
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    Belgium Saison
    
    Recipe Overview
    
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    Style: Belgium Saison
    Source Recipe Link:
    ABV: 4.7% (assumes any priming sugar used is diluted.)
    
    Original Gravity (OG): 1.049
    IBU's (Tinseth): 21.8
    Bitterness to Gravity Ratio: 0.45
    Colour: 13.9 EBC = 7.1 SRM
    
    Kettle Efficiency (as in EIB and EAW): 84.5 %
    Efficiency into...

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    That looks like an interesting beer! Are you going for a reddish colour with the dark malts? I've done it before but it isn't to style in the traditional sense.
    
    I'm also wondering about the 20 minutes at 62 and the longer rest at 71. I would be inclined to swap the times around to make sure it finishes nice and dry.
    
    Looks like a tasty beer!
    
    This was a recipe (adjusted to BIAB) from a winning beer at the home brew festival 2015. It wasn't red, more cloudy yellow - the steps were from the...
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18. Wheat in a British Ale.

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    First post by Philip321, 7 years ago

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    Has anybody got a recipe or know of one that is a British ale with some wheat in it.
    
    Or should I just make my own recipe, say from a Timothy Taylor Landlord and add a certain percentage of wheat.
    
    Where I got this idea from was when I was in the Lake district in Cumbria England, the bloke behind the bar said that his Bluebird Bitter had some wheat in it. It was the second best pint I'd had in my whole life.

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    Thanx for the reply Contrarian, I'll give it a try.
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19. APA - four pines recipe clone

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    First post by jeffargent, 7 years ago

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    Firstly this forum website is amazing, and as a first time AG BIAB brewer it has provided invaluable information.
    So after a couple of missed targets and frustrations with beersmith i am going to convert to biabacus for my next brew.
    Quick question, does biabacus know what particular grain i am using in regards to the different fermentables in each grain? So from what i have learnt crystal wont have as much fermentables as pale 2 row?
    Is this so important or irrelevant in terms of the grain...

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    wicked, cheers PP!
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20. American Rogue Dead Guy - CYBI w / John Maier --- Brewmaster

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    This is the recipe for a clone based on the interview with the Brewmaster. Did he give away all his secrets? What does he mean by whirlpool hops? The Sterling hops are added sometime after flame out (FO), but at what temperature, for how long, etc.? How did I do in filling out the BIABacus?
    
    Here are the clues; viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1869&start=75#p29021
    
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    OK, so today was the great Dead Guy Taste Test Comparison and it has been called a resounding success. :clap:
    Color match was perfect.
    Smell - could not note any real difference
    Most importantly the blind taste test by 2 people noted only a small difference (both were able to select the dead guy) (did I mention small difference) - it was agreed that the difference was likely that I did not brew with the Rogue Oregon Hops (need to look into if I can get some)
    So that's great, right? I mean...
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21. PLEASE REVIEW: Scottish Export Ale - Grugach 80/

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    First post by bluebear, 7 years ago

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    This is my first attempt converting a recipe using BIABacus. The comments of more experienced BIABers would be most welcome.
    
    The original recipe can be found here: onclick= window.open(this.href);return false; ... sr#slide-5
    
    I discovered it searching the forums for Scottish Export Ale and several members reported good results with it in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=2122
    
    I'm aware there is controversy about the use of peated malt in a true-to-style Scottish Export Ale, but wanted to get...

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    Once again, thanks, Scott!
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22. Yeastie Boys Digital IPA

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    First post by COYS, 8 years ago

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    Hi.
    
    This is my first proper post. I have just used BIABacus to scale down a recipe for a brew this morning and it worked great.
    
    For my next batch, I wish to brew a Yeastie Boys Digital IPA. Reciepe is found here on the Yeastie Boys website
    
    Yeastie Boys Digital IPA
    
    Recipe Overview
    
    Anticipated OG: 1.066
    Anticipated ABV (%): 7.0
    Anticipated IBU: 77.0
    Anticipated SRM: 7.3
    
    Wort Boil Time: 60min
    
    Malt
    
    80.4% Pale Malt
    11.5% Munich Malt Type 1
    5.8% CaraPils
    2.3% Caramalt 35
    
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    Good on you Simon and welcome to the forum :salute:,
    
    I'm short on time and brain power tonight :) but on seeing the topic title, my currently dim brain remembered working on this recipe before. I just did a search on digital ipa (include the inverted commas) and there is some stuff there. Normally I'd post the links etc but no time today sorry. Have a read of them though and see if they help until I or someone else can get back to you.
    
    A few other reasons why I thought I better do a quick...
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23. First time using BIABacus!

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    First post by RedFlag, 8 years ago

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    Hey all, I just started brewing an would like your input on this recipe. I tried BIAB twice before using 1 gallon recipe kits and failed the first time because my water volume was way off and the second one the OG was very low so I suspect either my mash was not efficient or my water was off... The first recipe kit I did was a cream ale, the ingredients went like this:
    0.75 lbs pale malt
    0.75 lbs pilsner
    0.2 lbs rice flakes
    0.21 oz hallertauer 60 min
    0.12 oz hallertauer 1 min
    safale american...

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    Wow thanks for the reply!
    
    I will definitely give it a try using the modifications you did to the recipe. Section K is kind of confusing to me (like what is SWN?) but as you said I will mash using 13.79L. One thing I learned from last batches is that I need something to keep track of my volume, I will probably make some identifiers on my stirring spoon at half gallon increments.
    
    As you recommended I ordered the book Brewing Classic Styles. I already read How to Brew by John J. Palmer and...
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24. Dark Mild Recipe Critique

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    First post by Shekwan, 8 years ago

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    OVERVIEW
    
    Style: Dark Mild
    Name: Dark Mild
    Yeast: WLP Burton Ale Yeast (023?)
    Fermentation Temperature: 21C
    Original Gravity: 1.037
    Total IBU's: 20
    Colour (SRM): 23
    Efficiency at End of Boil: 75
    Mash Length (mins): 60
    Boil Length (mins): 60
    Your Vessel Type (Pot/Keggle/Urn): Pot
    Source/Credits:
    Notes/Instructions/Comments:
    
    Note that The Calculator download below is based on this recipe.
    
    Volumes etc.
    
    Your Vessel Volume (L or gal): 19 l
    Your Vessel Diameter (cm or in): 30cm
    Water Required (L...

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    The recipe looks pretty good but I would probably up the Munich and victory by 5% each and drop the crystal by 10%. Otherwise that is a lot of Crystal.
    
    If you want more body it is better to get it from your mash temperature rather than the crystal. Looks
    Like a good choice of yeast, it's really
    Important for a mild to have some nice yeast esters.
    
    It's a great style and doesn't need to be over complicated to be a delicious session beer. Start with a simple recipe and then have a play around...
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25. Karl Strauss Pintail Clone (APA)

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    First post by Pilch, 8 years ago

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    This was my first BIAB attempt last month. I got something wrong and my pre-boil volume was down a bit resulting in a higher gravity and ultimately a bigger beer at 7% ABV but it tasted great.
    Apart from working out my settings to get my volumes right I will also up the late and DH additions, the beer could easily carry some more hops up front.
    
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    And here is the BIABacus recipe file for the 1st batch.
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