I am really liking this mally. Great work!!

Mally,

We have needed this to make things more understandable for brewers. Keep up the good work! It really looks professional and shows a lot of hard work and research. Thanks again!

BTW - This is still classed as developmental (to me anyway). Hopefully after it has been used/approved/verified etc. changes & corrections will be finalised.

If there are any users of this guide at the moment, there is an error on PG3 that I have just noticed. so just ignore that for the time being.

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Thanks for all your encouragement

mally wrote:BTW - This is still classed as developmental...

I've been emailing with mally so he knows that I think the above is coming along really nicely.



Take some time to look at post #30

It takes quite a while to make a post like mally did in #1 and #30. There is nothing worse than, after posting, finding an error and having to re-draw and post a pic so...

If you see anything wrong, post it.

Clever Thinking (Lars)...

Lars' post #22 is a great/perfect example of seeing things through other people's eyes. Lar's post needs to be carefully considered. If Lars is confused, how can we expect a first-time all-grainer to see what we want them to see?

Think on the big issues

This guide currently only deals with volume terminology. While it looks great compared to the chart we have here the latter has process, gravity and efficiency terms as well as volumes. (Even with all that detail it still misses a very basic layer we have thought of since.)

Do you have a solution?

I think there might be a way of putting the above terms into mally's format by using the third column so, have a beer and throw your ideas in if you can see a way of mally's doc puling the big picture together nicely.

...

This sort of stuff takes a tremendous amount of time/work/thinking. The more time/work/thinking that you guys can throw in, the better for mally and anyone else trying to make it easier for others here.


PP

Wow Mally, just....wow!

---Todd

PistolPatch wrote:Clever Thinking (Lars)...

Lars' post #22 is a great/perfect example of seeing things through other people's eyes. Lar's post needs to be carefully considered. If Lars is confused, how can we expect a first-time all-grainer to see what we want them to see?

I never actually read that as Lars being confused.

I actually thought it was the same as what I was thinking whilst designing it. How can I draw grain being tipped in from a certain height whilst stirring to avoid doughballs? erm... nevermind, I will just show a bag with grain in it, then a bag with grain in water!
I have got around my Powerpoint limitations with some accompanying text (see pic4 "dough in", is that enough? or do you think the graphic is required?

Lars? anybody else?
What about PP's comments? does anybody think we should add more info to cover gravities etc? have seperate guides? or just use it as is?

Mally, this is the first time I've seen this. Pictures are worth 1000 words to me.. as I'm much more a visual learner than one who can do it all by simply reading.

Thanks thanks thanks.

Getting back to what Lylo was saying.. When I worked at Hewlett Packard, I used to rub shoulders with a number of the technical writers and I found out why their technical manuals were so clear.

What they would do after writing a 1st, 2nd, etc draft of the manual, they would give it to a totally non-technical person.. like a secretary and ask him/her to read the manual and perform the tasks. They would find out what the parts were that were not clear and re-write them until the process became clear.

For beginners, and I certainly consider myself a beginner, I would find it cumbersome to complete. When I asked questions about it, I was referred to this thread and that thread. Thank goodness for the persistence of the admins and others that helped me through it. I still get confused and have a ton to learn. Slowly getting there.. but it is taking handholding.

Thanks to all.

Good Job, GP!