Post #27 made 12 years ago
Nup :P,

There's a bit written on this Dave but it was written during your holidays :). There's some info written, possibly out of date now, at the end of these two threads here and here.

Being able to import and export recipes from one version to another is important but, as far as I have been able to see so far, would require macros or a coded program. You will well remember how many problems macros caused in early BIABacus attempts. That is why I have completely avoided them in this attempt.

I think we have everything pretty close to being nailed down, terminology and design-wise, as best as we can, given the limitations of a macro-free spreadsheet form. The next question to consider is whether to embark on coding the project and how to best re-structure the site. This will require an incredible amount of work and energy that I think is too much to ask of nearly all personalities unless they are rewarded. My personality is one that often is happy to work hard on a challenge for no reward but I must say that this project has taxed me to limits I never knew I had :smoke: :).

So, I suppose the next stage really is to see if we can come up with some clever ways of finding and rewarding people who can put in the work to bring the site and the BIABacus to their full potential.

That's enough from me on the BIABacus for today*.

:)
PP

* Speaking of which, I think all the points in your PM, except for the last one, are answered in my last post, the one with all the Section L pics. Let me know if that last post made sense if you can Dave.
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Post #28 made 12 years ago
Just my laziness about re-typing into every new release, that's all.

The "H" version seems to have fixed all my latest "findings". I think you maybe right that it is ready to move to version 1.4.

Post #29 made 12 years ago
PP, I am looking at PR1.3 and PR1.3H together with a 'view side by side' and 'synchronous scolling' set in MS Excel. With the same recipe, I noticed that my 9% auto efficiency on PR1.3 matches up when PR1.3H is set at 5%.

I read that you made a change, but from E to G version, but was there a problem with the PR1.3 version?

I like all the changes in terminology, especially VFO. GAM is really cool. :smoke: Good Job...


:peace:
MS
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Post #30 made 12 years ago
Can you post your files up Richard so I can have a look?

You can kiss GAM goodbye :) - see the end of this post. To write a formula for it properly is going to require a whole lot of numbers to be collected at extreme ends of the gravity scale. It's not easy to do properly. The few attempts done so far on this are extrapolations that make some incorrect assumptions.

:peace:
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Post #33 made 12 years ago
:lol:

Okay, the two files are different because in one file, in Section W, you have 6 L as 'Water Added Before the Boil', whilst in 1.3H, that 6L has been moved to 'Water Used in a Sparge'. So, all is good ;).

:party:

Gotta race but you'll have to teach me how to do that scrolling thing ;).
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Post #35 made 12 years ago
Don't be embarrassed Richard. Stuff like that is easily done. I've done stuff like that and not been able to see it for ages. Posts like yours are actually great as they tell me that you are looking at everything in detail. Smyrnaquince did something similiar the other day. But, both of you have, through your questions, also resulted in valuable corrections or design changes. So, being proud would be much more appropriate than being embarrassed I reckon ;).
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Post #38 made 12 years ago
Mad_Scientist wrote:Hey, I found a bug in PR1.3H.
The red warning pop up in section w, reads 'VIK approaches kettle limits', not VIB.
No, that's not a bug. It is a warning that that guy Vik is getting too close to your kettle and that you'd better keep an eye on him! :lol:
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Post #39 made 12 years ago
I think what Richard is saying is that I have forgotten to update the warning to the new terminology. The warning should say "VIB approaches kettle limits." Good on you :thumbs:.
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Post #40 made 12 years ago
One other thing, not a bug as such...could an extra couple of lines be added to the release in the Hop Bill section? I was converting a recipe the other day for a 'hopburst' that uses 3 hops and 3 additions! Not to mention a triple hop dry hop...

Post #41 made 12 years ago
Hi there Cap ;),

It is unfortunate that in the spreadsheet form you can't have tables that grow. Adding lines can actually have ease of use consequences not easily seen and we have settled on the eight lines currently provided. This covers nearly all recipes grain and hop bill.

There are ways around a hopburst situation though. We've dealt with it somewhere before but I can't find the post/s :P. Maybe post your hop bill in the 'How to Convert Recipes' thread and we can sort it out there?

:peace:
PP
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Post #42 made 12 years ago
Cheers again PP! :thumbs:
Will post over there when it comes to it, was just testing something out (a modified Jaipur clone, based on the recipe in Mitch Steele's excellent IPA book).
I think its something I can live with to be honest, BIABacus has so many good points that something like this isn't a big drama. :smoke:

Post #43 made 12 years ago
A couple of things I've spotted in PR1.3H:

In the recipe report tab on line 93 it has "Fermention:" instead of "Fermentation:". Also, on line 91 there is a space missing before the &.

On the main tab, in sections S-V you've abbreviated centimetre to cms. It should be cm. This has been done correctly on the unit conversion tab.

Once again, the BIABacus is great. I've successfully done 4 brews with it now. Thanks.

Post #45 made 12 years ago
Found a bug in PR1.3H;
...when looking at a carbonation question posted by DrummoRC

Section Q - The keg 'carbonate @ [x] psi' is formatted out to 8 digits after the decimal point.
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Post #47 made 12 years ago
Print Report - Incorrect formatting on Time Column

I have just noticed that the Times on the Print Checklist report are set to Number Format not Time format (HH:MM:SS)

This means the info from the front page in Z:Time is incorrectly displayed

I have noticed from the submitted recipes most people do not fill this out, so it was easy to miss, But I am a newbie, and trying to keep very detailed records (so I can ref back to them).

Just wanted to let you know
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Post #48 made 12 years ago
Yetti, well-spotted but this might be a fix you need to do on your own...

Those cells on the first sheet (the main sheet) are actually unprotected so you will be able to change the formatting on those yourself. Mind you, on the version I have and the one we are working on now, those cells should be formatted as 'General' cells - they should not be time-formatted.

If you have time, it would be great if you could try re-formatting them to 'General' and then report back whether the Checklist prints correctly.

:salute:
PP
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Post #49 made 12 years ago
Hi PP

This method did not work,

The cells are unprotected on the General sheet (first sheet) as you say, and the times appear perfectly on this sheet. But on the Print Checklist Sheet they are protected and cannot be changed, and it is here that they appear incorrectly.

I have discovered a work around, that unlocks the protected sheets, and I can use this to change the formatting, this solved the problem.

Not sure if you want me to post such sensitive info here

Thank you again.
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Post #50 made 12 years ago
Thanks a heap Yetti for doing that - much appreciated :salute:

Your post made me look at the report sheet and I think that the problem might have cropped up when a single line was deleted from that sheet a while ago so, good on you, I would not have found that otherwise. I'll make that whole column a 'general' one on the next edition.

As for not posting sensitive info, that's probably a good idea atm. Not so much because we are trying to hide the numbers but more so, to be able to find errors faster, just as in this case.

Thanks again Yetti ;),
PP
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