Hi Guys,
After a year of brewing kits I am stepping up to BIAB in a 32l pot.
I would like to give the following recipe a go as a site in the UK sell it as a AG kit and BrewDog Punk IPA is one of my favourites.
Problem is there are too many additions in the hop bill for BIABacus so wondered if anybody could help, here's the instructions that come with the ingredients.
Boil Size: 26.84 l
Post Boil Volume: 21.84 l
Batch Size : 19.00 l
Mash liquor Volume 12.5l
Mash Temp 66c 90mins
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 10.0 EBC
Estimated IBU: 43.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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5.00 kg Maris Otter (5.9 EBC)
50.00 g Chinook [13.40 %] - Boil 12.0 min
16.00 g Ahtanum [5.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min
16.00 g Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min
16.00 g Simcoe [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min
16.00 g Ahtanum [5.30 %] – Steep 0 min
16.00 g Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] – Steep 0 min
16.00 g Simcoe [14.10 %] - Steep 0 min
16.00 g Ahtanum [5.30 %] - Dry Hop 3-5 days
16.00 g Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] - Dry Hop 3-5 days
16.00 g Simcoe [14.20 %] - Dry Hop 3-5 days
Thanks,
Sam
Post #2 made 11 years ago
Sam, welcome to the forum
,
You got pretty lucky with this recipe
. Usually most recipes you come across on the net don't have enough information in them to be of much value at all (read the stickied threads in this forum that contain the word 'integrity'.)
This is one of the very few that I can make sense of. I have never seen any other kit sold that actually posts a post-boil volume figure so tell them that I, for one, am impressed
. Usually, you get little or very vague volume information...
There is a much bigger problem with kits though. You buy the kit and it says you will get this much beer from this kit. You and I though, as two different brewers, using different kettles and methods, would not be able to order the same amount of grain and hops to end up with the same amount of beer at the same bitterness. Our losses will be different for a start.
Just bear that in mind. Kits tell you that you will get x volume of beer if you buy y weight of ingredients (the kit) but that is not right. It will usually get you within ten or twenty percent of your target but I'm sure you will agree that is not good enough.
...
The BIABacus works from the opposite and logical side. It asks how much beer you want (Section B), the blend of ingredients (left hand side of Sections C and D) and then calculates the quantity of ingredients you should buy (right hand side of Sections C and D) to get that amount/strength/bitterness of beer.
So your question is difficult to answer accurately but let's wrap this up as there is nothing major to worry about on this recipe...
Attached BIABacus
If you buy a kit, the best we can do (and it's pretty good in this case) is tell you how much water to add to that kit - focus on the top line of Section K in the attached file.
I have guessed the circumference of your kettle at 35 cm but measure that and change that in the file below and write back if anything worrying comes up.
The thing with all-grain 'kits' is that the only control you have over them is how much water you start with.
I hope some of this makes sense. If I have given too much detail, just keep asking questions.
PP

You got pretty lucky with this recipe

This is one of the very few that I can make sense of. I have never seen any other kit sold that actually posts a post-boil volume figure so tell them that I, for one, am impressed

There is a much bigger problem with kits though. You buy the kit and it says you will get this much beer from this kit. You and I though, as two different brewers, using different kettles and methods, would not be able to order the same amount of grain and hops to end up with the same amount of beer at the same bitterness. Our losses will be different for a start.
Just bear that in mind. Kits tell you that you will get x volume of beer if you buy y weight of ingredients (the kit) but that is not right. It will usually get you within ten or twenty percent of your target but I'm sure you will agree that is not good enough.
...
The BIABacus works from the opposite and logical side. It asks how much beer you want (Section B), the blend of ingredients (left hand side of Sections C and D) and then calculates the quantity of ingredients you should buy (right hand side of Sections C and D) to get that amount/strength/bitterness of beer.
So your question is difficult to answer accurately but let's wrap this up as there is nothing major to worry about on this recipe...
Attached BIABacus
If you buy a kit, the best we can do (and it's pretty good in this case) is tell you how much water to add to that kit - focus on the top line of Section K in the attached file.
I have guessed the circumference of your kettle at 35 cm but measure that and change that in the file below and write back if anything worrying comes up.
The thing with all-grain 'kits' is that the only control you have over them is how much water you start with.
I hope some of this makes sense. If I have given too much detail, just keep asking questions.
PP
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Post #3 made 11 years ago
Thanks PP,
That is all a massive help, I'm starting to think I'm overthinking everything and should just crack on and improve by doing!
The kit is from The Malt Miller here is the UK and is pretty much one of the 'go to' places for grains.
http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.ph ... ductId=611
I could obviously get all the ingrediants separately and if this is going to help me out by being able to purchase grains in bulk then I'm fine by that
That is all a massive help, I'm starting to think I'm overthinking everything and should just crack on and improve by doing!
The kit is from The Malt Miller here is the UK and is pretty much one of the 'go to' places for grains.
http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.ph ... ductId=611
I could obviously get all the ingrediants separately and if this is going to help me out by being able to purchase grains in bulk then I'm fine by that
Post #4 made 11 years ago
slimmrock
I have done my own version of this recipe quite a few times now. I think you will love it.
The only difference I had was substituting the Ahtanum (could never get it)
I would recommend you try the recipe first (seems like you get 2 goes as well)
. Then maybe think about ordering separates.
By then you will have a better understanding of your equipment and the BIABacus.
I have done my own version of this recipe quite a few times now. I think you will love it.
The only difference I had was substituting the Ahtanum (could never get it)

I would recommend you try the recipe first (seems like you get 2 goes as well)

By then you will have a better understanding of your equipment and the BIABacus.

G B
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I've stopped drinking, but only when I'm asleep
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Post #5 made 11 years ago
Tried some Punk IPA this weekend and loved it. Going to try this for my next Brewday :-)
Can't believe the amount of hops on the hop bill!
Can't believe the amount of hops on the hop bill!

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