PistolPatch wrote:Welcome dj and congratulations on your first BIAB. And a saison to boot

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If your kettle is big enough, with BIAB, try and do it full-volume. This allows you to avoid the hassle of active sparging. Preliminary experiments on side by side brews, seem to be showing that there is only a tiny gain in efficiency from an active sparge, one or two percent. I'm going to do a few more experiments on this later in the year just to build up some more data.
If your kettle is too small to say fit at least 80% of the total water into the mash, then active sparging starts to become a necessity. Avoiding ti where possible though certainly makes life easier.
Saison first. I wonder what you have planned next!
PP
Thanks!
Yea, I got a 32 quart kettle (30L?) so I've done full volume boils except for my first three extract with specialty grain batches. Every extract session was with specialty grains so it gave me a good starting point to perform my first all grain biab. Space and money are contrained so this is the perfect solution for my brew sessions.
In the case of this saison, which had a 12 lb grain bill, the kettle allowed me to do a 1.5 qt./lb mash ratio making for a thinner mash (supposedly allowing for better starch conversion) which was mashed at 154 since I like my beers with a little extra long chain dextrins. Wyeast 3711 is a monster yeast that can ferment even a rusty oil drum! Only used a 1L starter and I believe after pitching on the early morn of 8/4 that the numbers must be in the teens at least by today . . . I expect it to finish around 1.002-4 from 1.070. I sparged because with my letting drain and squeezing there was still a significant amount of sugar with the grains. I'd be surprised if my efficiency wouldn't be a lot lower if I didn't. The sparge temp should have been higher to better rinse the sugars.
5.0 gallon batch
7.0 gallon preboil
105 min. boil
30.6 ibu's
1.070 SG
5^ srm
approx. 79% mash efficiency
9 lbs. Briess Belgian pilsner
2 lbs. Rahr white wheat
1 lb. Flaked Rice
.4 oz Saurmaltz (my water profile is like Pilsen)
1 lb. Belgian clear candi syrup
1 oz. Mt Hood
1 oz. Styrian Goldings
1 oz. Crystal
Strike water 164
1.5 qt/lb mash ratio
4.5 gallons strike water
Mash took up 5.46 gallons
Lost 1.5 gallon to grains
Mashed in at 154 for 60 min.
3 gallons sparge water 170F (should have been near boiling though)
Needless to say the boil should have been 90 min. since my finished wort volume was 5.0 gallons even. No problem since I just added about .75 gallons make up water to the fermenter to get to 1.070 and make up for trub loss (.5 gallon). Should have been 1.073 for 7.9% abv.
I was aiming to do a sorta clone for Great Divide's Colette which is awesome btw . . Saison ftw!
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Next up a 17.5 lb bill for a Rochefort 10 clone!