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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

i'm happy to answer :)

I do not want a sour beer but I have read a few things and I am struggling to understand if it will be sour tasting on the first brew. So you have done a few brews in the barrel and the beer has not come out sour yet?

not sour at all so far :thumbs:

The barrel I have was sulphited before I got it, but has been stored empty for a few months now. so I just need to rinse it with hot (i guess boiling) water that's sounds easy enough. How much do you use? I am guessing you need a large amount otherwise it will cool down quickly once it is inside the barrel?

its good that it was sulphited but if its been empty than it may have dried out. you should fill it with hot water and let it soak for a few days so that the staves swell up. not too long as to not get mold. i would drain the water after a few days and that rinse with alcohol OR sulphite it again before filling with beer.


Do you store yours empty between use?

it's not a good idea to let the barrel dry out. i've heard you can fill it with water and Sodium bisulfite and store it that way.

I notice you ferment the beer first then age in the barrel, but you fit an air lock, do you get much additional ferment activity? do you leave much headspace in the barrel?

not much but some additional ferment activity. try to minimize the headspace.

does your barrel leak much or do you prime it to soak the wood so it swells?
no leaks at all. if the barrel has not dried out you shouldn't have any leaks either

Last question, do you notice any evaporation? In a podcast Jamil suggested there will be evaporation through the wood?
there is some evaporation. and you may want to plan a top up brew a few month into the aging. we haven't done that so far.
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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

this is a pic of my new barrel. 100 Liters.
now filled with a belgian dubbel to get some of the oak flavours out. the next will be a lambic style beer.
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Post by Homemade » 4 years ago

Thaks for your answers. It is great to get this info from someone who has the experience of using a barrel.

After reading your last post I searched on the Internet and found this info on storage.

http://swat.net.au/tech/Oak/NewBarrelCare.pdf

It seems storing with bisulphite might take away too much oak flavor so I think I'll look for some sulphite.

Thanks again.

Ian

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Post by mally » 4 years ago

I didn't want to start a new thread, but thought somebody (Todd, Noam)? may be interested in this pellicle pic.

It is about 3 months old at the moment (still a baby).

Used cultured dregs from a drie fonteinen oud gueze (brett, lacto & pedio).
threw in some medium toast french oak chips about 1 month ago.
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Post by BobBrews » 4 years ago

Mally,

I hope it tastes better than it looks?
tap 1 Raspberry wine
tap 2 Bourbon Barrel Porter
tap 3 Czech Pilsner
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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

awesome pic!
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Post by thughes » 4 years ago

Mally, that looks yummy! I've got one that will be having it's second birthday in November, reckon I'll celebrate by finally bottling it.

Hey Noam, I bought a used whiskey barrel this past Spring but haven't put anything in it yet, I'd like to dump the cake from my 2 year old sour into it to get a 'house strain" of bugs going but the barrel is still fresh with charred oak. I'm planning on soaking it a few times with water just to get the strong oak flavor out, what do you think? Of coarse there is a local brewery here that does a barrel aged Double IPA that is really good, maybe I'll run a couple batches of IIPA through it to get the oak out. (I've been slacking all Summer and need to get back to brewing)

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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

Todd, run a beer or two in the barrel to get some oak out. i did a belgian double which came out very nice. i'm not big on the 2xIPA personally.
i also have a 1.5 year old lambic that i plan to use the cake from to inoculate my barrel. hopefully in the next two weeks.
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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

today we will be filling our group barrel for the fourth time (the third run got cut short by mistake).
this time a Saison, fermented with Belle Saison Yeast from Danstar.
the FG before going into the barrel is around 1.002 ! Image
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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

Just filled the barrel once again
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Post by shibolet » 4 years ago

shibolet wrote:Todd, run a beer or two in the barrel to get some oak out. i did a belgian double which came out very nice. i'm not big on the 2xIPA personally.
i also have a 1.5 year old lambic that i plan to use the cake from to inoculate my barrel. hopefully in the next two weeks.
so those two weeks ended up being two months :roll:
finally bottled my 18 months old lambic and used the dregs to inoculate the barrel. now begins the waiting game.
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Post by thughes » 4 years ago

I haven't got around to doing anything with my barrel yet but I do have a lambic that will be having it's second birthday in December, hmmm.........
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